Hi,

Today I noticed one of my front tyres was down to the chords on the inside and the other was getting low so I went to get them swapped for some part worn's I had.

The one that I thought was 'just' down to chord turned out to be down to the metal wire and must have been on the verge of blowing out. The thing that is puzzling me is that it's down to metal wire half of the way around and down to chord the other half (SEE PIC 4). I'm pretty sure there cant be any rubbing going on. The car is a a Fabia vRS with 205/45/16 tyres, standard alloys and standard suspension.

Any ideas how this may have happened? :S

I've spoken too the garage since and they didn't notice anything wrong.

Here you can see where the ware goes from down to chord then down to metal wire

YOU have _{negative camber, has it been lowered in which case you need a four wheel alignment, dont leave it so long, 6 points on your license if you got caught, never mind a blowout}

YOU have _{negative camber, has it been lowered in which case you need a four wheel alignment, dont leave it so long, 6 points on your license if you got caught, never mind a blowout}

It's on standard suspension all round.

For all that rubber to go missing the noise of it being chaffed away would be horrendous.

Stupid question have something jammed up under the wheel arch at any time.?

Just trying to account for that extreme damage to tyre.

Was tyre in good working order before it was fitted to car. ?

How does steering react on a straight road with/without throttle, does it pull to one side.

Tendency car (my car at least) pulls left to edge under power, and not so much with no power applied.

I assume the tyre was not a remould, just a part-worn normal tyre.?

Well your camber is still out to cause that much damage

In actual fact there is another cause (posiable)......low tyre pressures......if it is under inflated then the tyre wears more on the outer edges (shoulders)...if the car has negative camber then it will wear more on the inner shoulder.!!!..

Firstly I would get a proper tracking/alignment done....use this site to find a good place.

http://www.alignmycar.co.uk/

I've seen the inside edge wear loads on mark I fabias, often caused by the console bushes wearing....

Thanks for the replies, very useful!

The car goes back to the garage on Monday for a check while on the ramps. They said they didn't notice the wear on the tyre and normally give cars a check over when they are on the ramps, but they were busy so this was missed. I'ts a good job I asked for the worn tyres back or I would never have noticed. Being a tyre garage I'm not very confident in them for diagnostics. Seriously how would you not notice a tyre with loads of pieces of bright wire coming out of it when it's in your hands?

The pressures were checked last weekend before a round trip to London. On the drive to the garage there was a strange noise coming from the front tyres (metal making contact with the road). The steering had been vibrating slightly at 65+ mph since Wednesday. With damage this severe that tyre could have easily leaked. The tyre was no re-mould, it was a £100 Bridegstone. I really dont think it would have got me to work on Monday. I had been checking the tyre on cleaning the car. The last time I checked two weeks ago It was fine, no chord, so It's worn fast.

I've seen the inside edge wear loads on mark I fabias, often caused by the console bushes wearing....

+1

I'm with this guy.

Before I changed my bushes the inside of my tyres were getting worn badly. Not as bad as yours though.

+1

I'm with this guy.

Before I changed my bushes the inside of my tyres were getting worn badly. Not as bad as yours though.

was the same on my mark I vRS.. my inside edges wore, I changed the bushes and it cured it.. wasnt as bad as the above pics though!

In actual fact there is another cause (posiable)......low tyre pressures......if it is under inflated then the tyre wears more on the outer edges (shoulders)...if the car has negative camber then it will wear more on the inner shoulder.!!!..

Firstly I would get a proper tracking/alignment done....use this site to find a good place.

http://www.alignmycar.co.uk/

It is the inner shoulders

You said you checked tyre pressure. What was is it and what did you feel up with? Neg camber and low pressure would defenetly help to end-up like this. Were those on front or rear? If front that mean you have to much neg toe as well. Those much more factors that can influence this like that.

It is the inner shoulders

I'll rephrase......

The outer edges (shoulders) of a tyre will wear quickly if the tyre is under inflated.........if the car as excess negative camber then the inner shoulder of the tyre will recive all the wear when combined with low tyre pressures!

Clear!?? :wonder:

You do not have to rephrase, you said " if the car has negative camber then it will wear more on the inner shoulder.!!!.." and I pointed out as the op has said and by the photos It is the inner shoulder that is worn, both shoulders, inner and outer would be worn if low pressure , plus he said pressures were checked .

You do not have to rephrase, you said " if the car has negative camber then it will wear more on the inner shoulder.!!!.." and I pointed out as the op has said and by the photos It is the inner shoulder that is worn, both shoulders, inner and outer would be worn if low pressure , plus he said pressures were checked .

I know that if the tyre is under inflated that it will wear both shoulders evenly.....in a tyre which is correctly aligned!!.....

If the aligment is out with lots of negative camber it would then just wear out the inner edge......then add in the fact that the tyre is under inflated and the situation is even worse!....(I've seen it happen)........

So what has caused all the negative camber???? failed suspension part/bush etc......aligment out.....inside edges wear.....and IF the tyres are under inflated...then that makes the matter worse!!

Instead guessing its better to get garage with laser machine to do print out and solve problem. There is defenetly an issue on this suspension. Angles are so small and there is no way you can see then or adjust them "by eye" and tring to guess here is no good either. If you really want to solve this and save next set of tyres - then you need to do proper 4 wheel alignment check/adjustment.