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Buying a vrs tomorrow - any gremlins to look for?

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Hi all.

I'm finally letting the Fabia go (albeit to my parents) and have settled on a 2010 Octavia vrs Diesel from a local garage.

Going from a 1.4 16v Fabia, I was all to aware to check for leaky door cards, piston rings, creaky dashboards etc - so I'm wondering if people would be kind enough to share a quick run down of what they think typical Octy gremlins that I should take a quick look for?

The car looks in great condition to me, and cannot wait to be part of the Octy owners club!

Thanks all!

Mike

A few complaints about tyre noise, do a search for 'sawtoothing' and you'll find plenty to read.

Cause: poor geometry, symptoms: uneven tyre wear / excessive droning.

Anymore details on the car? Mileage, service history, factory options etc.?

Generally the newer CR diesel engines are proving to be pretty good. You might want to do a little reading on DPF's (Dust Particulate Filters) as these are prone to problems on low mileage / frequent short journey diesel's.

Diesel Particulate Filter

If you do a decent amount of miles with plenty of long runs the DPF shouldn't be an issue - I have a MY2010 CR vRS and I've now racked up 50k and the light has never been on. The rear end tyre noise and uneven wear is the only common issue I am aware of. The engine is a peach (for a diesel!). Enjoy!

Bob.

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A few complaints about tyre noise, do a search for 'sawtoothing' and you'll find plenty to read.

Cause: poor geometry, symptoms: uneven tyre wear / excessive droning.

Anymore details on the car? Mileage, service history, factory options etc.?

Generally the newer CR diesel engines are proving to be pretty good. You might want to do a little reading on DPF's (Dust Particulate Filters) as these are prone to problems on low mileage / frequent short journey diesel's.

Mileage is 18000, registered April 2010. Service history is nil (just delivery inspection) but Skoda garage I phoned confirmed this would correspond to it being < 20k miles.

I'm not sure on which factory options have been added as I have been looking at the Elegance for the past few months but the VRS stole my heart today. Spec above the Elegance is dual zone climate control and 3.5mm jack from the stereo (although I didnt see this).

Price is £14,000 which is a little over the book value according to mycarcheck.com, but it seems like alot of the cars out there are.

On the DPF front, I do 13 miles into work each day but once every couple of weeks I do a longer journey of 30 miles motorway.

I will check the tyre wear tomorrow :) Thanks

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Rear washer jets, mine is just not playing ball :dull:

Duel Mass Flywheels

Cold start issues, tends to be the PD units that have this problem, not sure about the CR's

Parking sensors can go abit haywire, if you have them that is!

Teeves ABS module if it's got ESP (not just ABS).

Water (screenwash) in the spare wheel well.

Non-working lumbar adjustment.

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For the miles you do, i would plump for the TSI, ive had both and find it a better engine in every way accept MPG, no DPF issues, cheaper fuel, lower buying ans service costs.

Thats just my opinion based on you mileage..... unless you prefer the way a TDI drives

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For the miles you do, i would plump for the TSI, ive had both and find it a better engine in every way accept MPG, no DPF issues, cheaper fuel, lower buying ans service costs.

Thats just my opinion based on you mileage..... unless you prefer the way a TDI drives

+1.

Petrol appears the way forward these days unless you're doing big miles.

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Funily enough, I'm thinking of calling the car Gizmo :)

I can see the view point of getting the petrol version, but with my job I may be working further afield at short notice so the diesel will probably still be in scope.

Am I right in thinking that the DPF will put a light on the dash if it needs a "recharge", and to resolve this requires belting at high revs for 15mins or so?

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For the miles you do, i would plump for the TSI, ive had both and find it a better engine in every way accept MPG, no DPF issues, cheaper fuel, lower buying ans service costs.

Thats just my opinion based on you mileage..... unless you prefer the way a TDI drives

couldn't agree more

another vote for the petrol.

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Forgot to mention chaps, I use my bike a fair bit and currently with the Fabia it gets put in the boot. I'm guessing with the vrs that a tailgate carrier is out of the question due to the spoiler, so does anyone know a ballpark figure for fitting roof bar things?

I`m looking at the Diesel version myself and for me personally it does not make sense....

Firstly the TDI costs about £1000 more to buy than the petrol which on my annual 12,000 miles would save £350 a year in fuel over the TSI

I would need to keep it 3 years to recoup the money... seems like the price between diesel and petrol is getting wider every week?

And... more problems with the dual mass flywheel, DPF and servicing ... why take the risk?

Many fall into the trap of "Gotta be cheaper"

My mate has a BMW 320D and paid £2000 more than the 320 petrol he has to have the 320d for 15 years to get his money back???

But if you like the way it drives then go for it!

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year half later and almost 35000km on the 1.6tdi, do have issues on tyres, Bridgestone as they are original and are noisy ( they seem to be getting worse9

The 3º break light was changed, had condensation inside always after wash.

Had and acident when was 6 months old, hit a dog.

Nothing else to register, ah yes, today the 4.0ºc advert showed up. :rock:

Outer bolster on the seat upright - clips can break in seat and bolster moves inwards (if it is used by a heavy weight to assist exit from vehicle... :doh:).There is a thread - mine was fixed under warranty.

The injectors are a serious fault on these cars as with vw seat and audi with the same engine there is a petition to VOSA on this forum.

The injectors are a serious fault on these cars as with vw seat and audi with the same engine there is a petition to VOSA on this forum.

This affects the older PD engines and not the newer CR engines.

As I understand it the car the OP is looking at is a 2010 model which means it will be the latest CR engine.

Mileage is 18000, registered April 2010. Service history is nil (just delivery inspection) but Skoda garage I phoned confirmed this would correspond to it being < 20k miles.

I'm not sure on which factory options have been added as I have been looking at the Elegance for the past few months but the VRS stole my heart today. Spec above the Elegance is dual zone climate control and 3.5mm jack from the stereo (although I didnt see this).

Price is £14,000 which is a little over the book value according to mycarcheck.com, but it seems like alot of the cars out there are.

On the DPF front, I do 13 miles into work each day but once every couple of weeks I do a longer journey of 30 miles motorway.

I will check the tyre wear tomorrow :) Thanks

Make sure it is serviced before you have it then (if you decide to have it). It will be due in the next 500miles i suspect. You can check this in the Maxidot.

Teeves ABS module if it's got ESP (not just ABS).

Water (screenwash) in the spare wheel well.

Non-working lumbar adjustment.

Wasn't the Teeves issue sorted years ago with a new design?

Funily enough, I'm thinking of calling the car Gizmo :)

I can see the view point of getting the petrol version, but with my job I may be working further afield at short notice so the diesel will probably still be in scope.

Am I right in thinking that the DPF will put a light on the dash if it needs a "recharge", and to resolve this requires belting at high revs for 15mins or so?

The DPF will only put a light on if it has gone through a few failed passive regens. I stick to premium diesel (Shell) as it has smoke reducing agents and cleaners added to it (please don't start a debate on this) and have only noticed a passive regen about 3 times (lumpy idle, lower mpg and fans on when turning the engine off) and takes only a few minutes to complete.

Forgot to mention chaps, I use my bike a fair bit and currently with the Fabia it gets put in the boot. I'm guessing with the vrs that a tailgate carrier is out of the question due to the spoiler, so does anyone know a ballpark figure for fitting roof bar things?

I have roof bars and carriers....Cost is expensive (got mine second hand for £200 for 2 carriers and Thule bars) and to be honest if it is just me out on the bike i stick it in the boot as it goes in easily without even having to remove the parcel shelf.

The injectors are a serious fault on these cars as with vw seat and audi with the same engine there is a petition to VOSA on this forum.

This is just on the PD engines. As you are looking at a 2010 model (ie facelift) it will have a CR engine which as of yet hasn't got any issues to be worried about.

Wasn't the Teeves issue sorted years ago with a new design?

The affected MK60 Teves ESP system is still being used.

The affected MK60 Teves ESP system is still being used.

I must admit I thought the problem had been fixed, but there in any case at least there is a relatively cheap repair available now if it does go.

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Make sure it is serviced before you have it then (if you decide to have it). It will be due in the next 500miles i suspect. You can check this in the Maxidot.

It was serviced by the non Skoda dealer as part of the purchase, will this satisfy warranty criteria or should I still get it serviced by Skoda?

The DPF will only put a light on if it has gone through a few failed passive regens. I stick to premium diesel (Shell) as it has smoke reducing agents and cleaners added to it (please don't start a debate on this) and have only noticed a passive regen about 3 times (lumpy idle, lower mpg and fans on when turning the engine off) and takes only a few minutes to complete.

I'm going to try to stick with Shell / Esso / BP fuels as much as possible (perhaps with one or two tanks every now and then on supermarket fuel). Without sparking a debate, I know what goes into shell fuel and albeit a bit more expensive its worthwhile.

I have roof bars and carriers....Cost is expensive (got mine second hand for £200 for 2 carriers and Thule bars) and to be honest if it is just me out on the bike i stick it in the boot as it goes in easily without even having to remove the parcel shelf.

I think the boot would be wise. I could fit my road bike in the boot of the Fabia but only just (lowered rear seats, passenger seat slid forward). After looking at the Octavia boot Im sure it will fit a treat :)

This is just on the PD engines. As you are looking at a 2010 model (ie facelift) it will have a CR engine which as of yet hasn't got any issues to be worried about.

Yup. Tis a CR engine that I have. When I was looking at the cars it was CR or nothing IMO as the general consensus was that it had resolved a few issues with the PD.

It was serviced by the non Skoda dealer as part of the purchase, will this satisfy warranty criteria or should I still get it serviced by Skoda?

Providing the dealer is VAT registered and they have used the correct oil (VW 507.00) then the warranty will be unaffected.

Can anyone tell me if any new skoda octavia's (non vrs) with the added optional extra for ESP has the same faulty unit.? or have they been changed.

(I know the manuals pre 09' has a button for "Esp Off" where as the newer manuals have a car skid shape button - I dont know if this is relevant.)

Any advice would be great, thanks.

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