Hi everyone!

I am really wanted a full set of HID lights for my silver Fabia VRS on a 55 plate. I've searched up this topic before hand however not seen a topic looking for the full light set (main beam, sidelights and fogs)

Could someone please assist me on the links below whether they would be suitable for my car please as my knowledge on this subject is not good. Also i would like to change the lights without having the MOT beeing affected (i.e. failing because of the lights)

1) Here are the main lights, im guessing 8000K is a nice colour?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Skoda-Fabia-VRS-ULTRA-XENON-HID-CONVERSION-KIT-H7-35w-/370452665954?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item5640b31662

2)Here are the sidelights im guessing 7000k to match the main lights

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/XENON-WHITE-SIDELIGHT-BULBS-SKODA-OCTAVIA-FABIA-inc-VRS-/280721507758?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item415c4e45ae

3) Here are the fogs, only get the 4500k look so guessing this won't be as good

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Skoda-55w-Super-White-HB4-9006-Xenon-HID-Fog-Beam-Headlight-Bulbs-/350515100713?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&fits=Model%3AFabia|Cars+Type%3A1.9+TDI+RS&hash=item519c53fc29

I'm hoping all these will be easy to fit as i guess just having HID main lights won't look right with the plain sidelight bulbs?

Many Thanks,

Daniel

Edited 30 December, 201114 yr by vertrider06

4500K is OEM white, any higher and light output reduces as the colour changes through blue to purple. 8K is not brighter than 4.5K, its actually a dimmer blue/purple colour and you'll stand out like a sore thumb driving along. The difference in output can be seen in the second link to sidelights you posted, the 5K are much brighter than the 7K sidelights.

You can't guarantee retro fit HIDs will pass MOT, or even be legal. They're a bit of a grey area in the eyes of the law. I know people who have been pulled over and told to remove them. I also know people who have run them for years and they sail through MOTs.

Fact, they blind other drivers, so that should be enough not to use them. However I did run them in my 9N3 polo, with the headlights set to a lower setting, and this prevented a majority of scattered light to oncoming traffic.

I wouldn't get any you mentioned. The sidelights are crap, and the fog lights are the wrong bulbs.

Here is a list I recommend:

Heat resistant LED sidelights

H7 6000k HID kit for Main/Dipped beams

H3 6000k HID kit for full beams

Chrome front and rear indicators

H3 LED bulbs for Foglights

I own the above mentioned sidelights, fogs, similar full beam HIDs and same rclick brand for my dipped bulbs.

EDIT: the LED fogs also have a poor light output, they simply colour match the rest. If you're running dual HIDs up front you honestly wont need bright fogs

Brilliant!

Thank you for the quick responses. Like i say im no good in this area which is why it's always good to ask people that actually know what there on about...

Also thank you for the links Tim, Im guessing as it says above, light options for main/dipped is H7 and H3 for the full beam. Only thing is H7 comes up as 4300k not 6000k :/

Long as i know 100% they'll fit i'll order nothing worse than buying and hoping, too many bad experiences lol

May be worth contacting them asking if they have them in 6000k. May just be a stock issue. But I wouldn't buy bulbs with different light temperatures.

Brilliant will ask. Just looked on guide and it says the fab vrs needs the canbus interface, is that right?

Just realised I spelt conversion wrong on title lol

Brilliant will ask. Just looked on guide and it says the fab vrs needs the canbus interface, is that right?

I'm not running them and haven't had any issues.

Yeah exactly what I thought. Well I'll give them a call anyways as I need to get both @ 6000k to match, won't look good having different colours

Mk2 needs CANBUS, Mk1 doesn't.

4500K is OEM white, any higher and light output reduces as the colour changes through blue to purple. 8K is not brighter than 4.5K, its actually a dimmer blue/purple colour and you'll stand out like a sore thumb driving along. The difference in output can be seen in the second link to sidelights you posted, the 5K are much brighter than the 7K sidelights.

Correct, You can see the difference in light output (Lumens) on this chart, which was taken from one of the after-market HID sites.

Also, if you use your fog light correctly (in FOG) then pure white/blue are not the best to use as they give off a lot of glare. Yellowish lights are best ones in Fog.

Lovely, that's one less thing to worry about...

I like the chart and I only use fogs when meant to, can't stand people that have then on all time, drives me nuts

I've got what I think are 6k in my Polo (with proper projectors), and while it does lookquite nice, I find the light quite stark to drive with at night, and very straining. The odd, yellwoing halogen full beams give a much nicer colour tone IMO.

Given the choice, I'd go for something a bit lower in the future, like 4.3 - 5k. (I'm only 20, so not even like my eyes are old and failing!)

Edited 30 December, 201114 yr by TriggerFish

Nice, thanks for reply, what are projectors all about? Are they found in the new BMWs? My friend says there may be a delay when switching from dipped to main, is this correct! Days hid lights take 3 seconds to warn up... Also If your lights need changing it shouldn't be a lot to just change the bulbs right?

Says HID* sorry on touchscreen phone

from the 1st Jan HID will not pass an mot unless fitted with self level and headlight wash

Reflectors - like your car will have.

Projectors - like most factory HID setups use.

(See the colour difference? They're (I think) 6k main beam, and these sidelights, which are meant to be white/blue tinted.)

Generally give better light aim when using projectorsI think, but look better if nothing else IMO.

Turning on is instant, but it takes them a couple of seconds to reach the right temperature/colour. They start off yellow, then turn white/blue over a second or two. Should go from dip-> full without issue. No idea on fitting I'm afraid, I've always got cars with them fitted from the factory, and not needed to add them.

If you want the projectors too - see here: http://briskoda.net/...00#entry2625829

Edited 30 December, 201114 yr by TriggerFish

from the 1st Jan HID will not pass an mot unless fitted with self level and headlight wash

Thats rubbish.

Edited 30 December, 201114 yr by mdon

Thats rubbish.

tell that to VOSA im a tester and have had all the new testable items issued and that is on the list

Read the manual on the DFT website. If HIDs are fitted, and levelling/washers are fitted, they have to work. But there's no mention of HIDs without levelling/washers being a failure. So either they're sending you crap information, or deliberately misleading the public by not making the public manual accurate enough for you to "pre-test" your own car.

Thats rubbish.

jesus....... :wonder:

Read the manual on the DFT website. If HIDs are fitted, and levelling/washers are fitted, they have to work. But there's no mention of HIDs without levelling/washers being a failure. So either they're sending you crap information, or deliberately misleading the public by not making the public manual accurate enough for you to "pre-test" your own car.

just been on the DFT website and under the part about standard fit HID it gos on to say that any car fitted with after market HID is expected to meet the same safty standard as factory fit so has to have self level and headlight wash

Edited 31 December, 201114 yr by nath17t

Not correct. Quoted from the VOSA MOT Manual (which is available to every member of the public on the DfT website), section 1.7 (Headlamps):

Vehicles equipped with High Intensity Discharge

(HID) or LED dipped beam headlamps may (may, not must) be fitted

with headlamp washers and a suspension or

headlamp self levelling system.

Where such systems are fitted, they must work;

Which reads to me, and several other people on this and other forums, that having retrofit HID bulbs without levelling/washers is fine, as long as they pass other areas of the MOT test such as beam patterns. Not having levelling/washers is not, in and of itself, a Reason for Rejection.

edit - as I said, this is designated the MOT Inspection Manual, so there may be other VOSA documents saying different things. However, since this one is specifically designed to explain what is covered in each section of the MOT test, if someone did try and fail me for not having levelling/washers then regardless of any documents they can show me, I would argue that the MOT manual trumps them all since it's specifically about MOT test procedures, and that according to the MOT test manual these systems aren't required.

edit 2 -

Preface

This Manual sets out the testing procedures and standards for those who carry

out statutory testing of cars, private buses and light commercial vehicles.

Vehicle owners may also find the Manual useful because it details the

inspection to which vehicles are subjected and the reasons why an MOT test

certificate could be refused.

From the preface of the MOT Inspection Manual. So as far as I'm concerned, anything not specifically mentioned in there isn't a failure, regardless of what other bits of the VOSA website might say

Edited 31 December, 201114 yr by gac

Not correct. Quoted from the VOSA MOT Manual (which is available to every member of the public on the DfT website), section 1.7 (Headlamps):

Which reads to me, and several other people on this and other forums, that having retrofit HID bulbs without levelling/washers is fine, as long as they pass other areas of the MOT test such as beam patterns. Not having levelling/washers is not, in and of itself, a Reason for Rejection.

that is for factory fit lights

Not correct. Quoted from the VOSA MOT Manual (which is available to every member of the public on the DfT website), section 1.7 (Headlamps):

Which reads to me, and several other people on this and other forums, that having retrofit HID bulbs without levelling/washers is fine, as long as they pass other areas of the MOT test such as beam patterns. Not having levelling/washers is not, in and of itself, a Reason for Rejection.

edit - as I said, this is designated the MOT Inspection Manual, so there may be other VOSA documents saying different things. However, since this one is specifically designed to explain what is covered in each section of the MOT test, if someone did try and fail me for not having levelling/washers then regardless of any documents they can show me, I would argue that the MOT manual trumps them all since it's specifically about MOT test procedures, and that according to the MOT test manual these systems aren't required.

if you are quoteing from the currany manual then the info you are using will be out of date on the 1st when the manual get updated with all the new test items the info on the dft website is what it will be in 2012 not what it is now

Edited 31 December, 201114 yr by nath17t