BG244 DIESEL TREATMENT

[seboni121]

Well on Sunday I added a full can of the BG244 into the fuel tank, it's a fabia 1.4 tdi 70bhp 3 cylinder machine with 50 k on the clock,running on empty into my local shell station fuel in tank hardly a drop, chucked the magic elixir BG244 with the aid of the yellow funnel they now supply no spills, then filled up 40 litres of fuel save diesel and drove off no issues started and no issues, the first 30 miles seemed normal no hesitation starts fine and tick over normal but at 47 miles yes very presice , a definite change in engine tone!, seemed quieter not the usual 3 cylinder bag of spanner, I like too think its more like a V10 But was smoother I asked the son and missus to check and a definite YES was heard by all, the engine has now done 70.miles on this tank and it's a revelation it's quieter ( did not say quiet ) but a lot better also the diesel smokyn is not there even on hard acceleration, she's smoother and pulls fantastic flies up hills loads more torque she had a few before but wow!, I will endeavour to bring more as the miles go on, but so far so good £20 well spent IMO some might say PLACEBO but I am not easily impressed

[Mattovplymouth]

Just bought this stuff today and get it delivered tomoz. Got told to buy it by a VAG specialist to help clean out the vanes on the turbo as I go into limp mode on overboost every so often due to heavy carbon deposits. It's only a 1st resort if the problem persist it'll be innotec turbo cleaner. Hopefully this will be a cure. It's hasn't gone into limp mode since I put a piper cross panel filter in but still might when I finally hit a motorway. Fingers crossed and glad its worked for you

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[GeneralPurpose]

Brilliant Seb, I haven't used that one myself but some of the guys who tech at one of my locals say it's the dogs whatnots and does a brilliant job. I think you will prove that. Yeah....keep reporting on that if you can. :yes:

[seboni121]

1326897844[/url]' post='2650530']

Brilliant Seb, I haven't used that one myself but some of the guys who tech at one of my locals say it's the dogs whatnots and does a brilliant job. I think you will prove that. Yeah....keep reporting on that if you can. :yes:

Oh yes if it's good both the puppies will get it annually , seem to be doing what's its suppose to do

[zach1301]

have you tried the diesel excellium from total garages? Not only myself has noticed that it could almost be a petrol from sound inside the car its so quiet and smooth even on cold starts also better mpg getting about 70 miles more per tank of this

[seboni121]

have you tried the diesel excellium from total garages? Not only myself has noticed that it could almost be a petrol from sound inside the car its so quiet and smooth even on cold starts also better mpg getting about 70 miles more per tank of this

No haven't tried excellim may have a look not sure if there's a total garage here though

[zach1301]

No haven't tried excellim may have a look not sure if there's a total garage here though

I think the diesel excellium is quite rare, i have 2 totals near my house but only the biggest one has it on the pump, all garages seem to be about better unleaded. On my first Diesel car, will NEVER be going back to petrol, was sick of filling up every 5 days, diesel last sooo much longer like 2 weeks almost per tank

[seboni121]

Well 100 miles now done on this tank of fuel laced with BG244, the fuel gauge has not moved whatsoever is this good?, may be stuck but time will tell but if this is down to the magic syrup it's made a difference to the economy, car seems ver eager to move along? Hope I am explaining this properly ? , it feels more ready to rev through the band no hesitation, I am not saying the car was terrible before but it's only a 3 cylinder 70bhp 1.4tdi , so not Ferrari like in performance however, it seems to pull so much stronger and pulling out to overtake a wagon doing 60 mph I dropped it to 4 th and planted foot down, before I would be a little apprehensive but I'd passed it before I knew it put it to 5 th and I was doing above motorway speed so quicker ( sorry this is on private roads) cough, usually car sits around 2.400 rpm for 60 but tried it today and it's a smiggin under 2,000 rpm , I don't know what this means but I suppose someone will!, every day I drive it it seems quieter however it will never be as quiet as a prius , all seems fine better than fine to be honest feels like I've just taking my wellies off and put a pair of running shoes on

[seagull]

I used BG244 in my old D-ID Colt and it didn't make any difference to mpg of performance but i just assumed it had done its job.I now add 2 stroke oil to the diesel to keep everything clean and quiet.

[seboni121]

1327090072[/url]' post='2653579']

I used BG244 in my old D-ID Colt and it didn't make any difference to mpg of performance but i just assumed it had done its job.I now add 2 stroke oil to the diesel to keep everything clean and quiet.

? It's seems to be doing something to my furby , all good

[seagull]

? It's seems to be doing something to my furby , all good

it probably is,it's likely to be cleaning all the cr*p out of your engine.I will chuck a bottle of BG244 in my Fabia in a couple of weeks as its now covered 42000miles and its getting remapped end of feb so best have a clean engine.

[Mattovplymouth]

Put this stuff in last night. Got a week of travelling to work then a 250 mile drive home next Friday. Hopefully I'll have some great results and no more limp mode

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[GeneralPurpose]

You car is no doubt quieter due to the injector spray pattern being restored to new. Uneven and restricted fuel spray pattern makes a hot engine engine rattle more like a cold diesel at start up, plus of course interferes with performance. All injectors suffer from this in petrol and diesel engines, regardless of what fuel brand/type you use, or how the car is driven. But it happens so slowly you don't notice it, that is until you remove it with something like Millers or BG244 (BG244 is a stronger mix of differing chemicals). If you use a cleaner of any sort and you don't notice a difference then your engine was alread still pretty clean. As I said in a earlier post I haven't used BG244 myself yet (I use Millers which also works well for normal engine cleaning) but I've heard good stuff about if from techs who do use it in customer cars and their own. I'm watching you experience Seb with interest mon amie.

[seboni121]

Yes definite difference during start and idle, does not sound like cold start rattle

[seagull]

2 stroke keeps everything clean and the fuel pump and injectors lubricated.I use BG244 every 30-40k then use 2 Stroke at each fill up it keeps everything quiet,well as quiet as PD engine can be.

[GeneralPurpose]

Hi Seagull, I've heard of some folk using 2stroke oil in their older non cat diesel cars years ago and it was suppose to do some good, and I think it actually did. It is low ash and probably not too bad in a PD. It may help the injector tips stay clean but won't help your pump as you have instead, unitary injectors (small individual injector pumps) and they are lubed with engine oil on the PD and is one reason they last so long. But bear in mind that unlike Millers or Redex, when two stroke oil is added to the fuel it alters the burning mixture control ratio and may cause the engine to run hot/weak if you add too much. Your ECU won't compensate enough in worst case senario's and detonation can occur if you push your engine. It's a bit like putting too much two stroke oil in your two stroke engine (on an engine that needs premix). It just destroys the engine with a nice big hole in a piston rather than lubricating it more. It won't help your CAT though and may be positively harmful to it by damaging the matrix causing corrosion and blocking. In tests we did on diesel motorcycle engines some 4 years ago that were equiped with CATS the use of two stroke oil as a cleaner seemed to be harmful, but that was not a conclusive test, just what appeared to be happening. It didn't happen with Redex or other cleaners but the CATS were two way and not the conventional 3 way so maybe that made a difference too. That was at a time when we were in our early research days of designing the current engine we are working on. Remember, unlike petrol engines, the CAT doesn't get much of a testing in an MOT, and is mainly just a smoke test on the emission side. So you may start losing power and fuel economy by small amounts bit by bit if the CAT isn't up to scratch and initially you won't know about it, unlike on a petrol engine. If you move to a cr engine you should maybe research if you can use it in that. I wouldn't think it is a good idea in the cr engine. Not trying to rain on your parade. Just be careful about using that in a modern car. I can't actually think there is a reason to do so but are probably good reasons not to use it.

Edited 21 January, 2012 by Estate Man

[seagull]

thanks for the info estateman,i am using 200ml 2stroke per full tank of diesel.My mate runs 2stroke in a VW 2.0pd,2.5tdi and a 2.0CR with no probs although to be fair the CATs and DPF's have been removed from the vehicles.

I used 2 stroke in a CDI engine and it had no negative effects but to be fair i only started using it a couple of months prior to selling it.

I have heard that semi synthetic 2stroke is the best for adding to diesel but fully synthetic can harm Cats.One of the big german car manufactures ran tests on additives and found that only 2stroke benefited their engines.

I think the BG244 stuff is pretty good stuff also Forte do good products.

[GeneralPurpose]

HI Seagull, yes it's all interesting stuff. If the CAT and DPF are removed then I can't see much of a problem as long as the dosage is kept very low so as to maintain the mixture control parameters. One thing we did find on the motorcycle engine was that two stroke interfered with the Lambda sensor after several hours of bench testing. Upon removal it would be coated in extranious material that prevented it from working correctly. We took the decision to stop using two stroke oil and the problem ceased. Incidentally, we were using two stroke oil in our development engine for a very specific reason and in very low doses to overcome a particular problem in our injection system, which at the time was experimental. We have now designed that problem out. It was just a way to continue to run the engine for us to check the other mods we had made, which turned out to be very successful (hooray!!). In other words it was belt and braces to allow us to keep going with the experiment. I like to hear about what other people find out about stuff like this though, so thanks for posting your info.

Seb, sorry...I've pretty much hijacked your thread unintentionally. But it's amazing what you can learn on this site from talking to people, sometimes about seemingly completely unrelated things.

Edited 22 January, 2012 by Estate Man

[seboni121]

No worries hijack as much as you require it's all interesting information

[lemonvrs]

So, is it a good idea to use any cleaners/aditives in the CR engines with PDFs. Mines done around 6600 miles now and is noticably a lot noisier than when it was new, and is more clattery when warm than it used to be. Only Skoda say not to put any additive in them?

[seboni121]

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So, is it a good idea to use any cleaners/aditives in the CR engines with PDFs. Mines done around 6600 miles now and is noticably a lot noisier than when it was new, and is more clattery when warm than it used to be. Only Skoda say not to put any additive in them?

They always say this , it's a fail safe for them most of the additives are fine for cr and dpf just check first every 10 k miles use the cleaners or 12 months I'll be using every 10 k

[seboni121]

Quick update emptied all the tank now with bg244, brim to brim on first tank with winter diesel 540 miles usually it's around 470 so definite inprovement, no issues whatsoever no plume of smoke from the back when hard excellerating tick over still around 800 rpm with no movement on idle, pulls a lot cleaner no hesitation

[Igloo Vindaloo]

So, is it a good idea to use any cleaners/aditives in the CR engines with PDFs. Mines done around 6600 miles now and is noticably a lot noisier than when it was new, and is more clattery when warm than it used to be. Only Skoda say not to put any additive in them?

Could it just be because it's now winter? - my diesels have always been noisier when cold.

[seboni121]

Could it just be because it's now winter? - my diesels have always been noisier when cold.

Yes it would be noisier at start up, but once warm shouldnt be any more audible regardless of temperature outside, as the engine would be operating at its optimum temp?

[seagull]

I have used BG244 on a car fitted with a CAT which is less restrictive than a DPF,i would be concerned about the Additive doing such a good job of cleaning the engine that i could end up with a load of crud suddenly being dumped in the DPF.

Edited 26 February, 2012 by seagull