FFS! - Found a nice little HID kit on Fleabay and thought I'd pop it in this morning. Went to swap out the bulb and came face to face with the new fangled method of holding in a H7 bulb that Skoda has seen fit to introduce on the FL.

Gone is the bent spung loaded wire clip and in comes a stainless turn and click holder which makes adding the aftermarket bulb impossible. I've looked and looked and just can't figure a way of changing to a HID bulb wit the current clip arrangement. I'm pretty sure I pluged in my brain this morning as well :-(

What in Gods name was wrong with the holder on the Pre - FL and it seems 90% of other vehicles?

I can't be the first person to attempt this .... can I??

You can buy modified clips off eBay mate

You can buy modified clips off eBay mate

As in:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/H7-HID-BULB-CLIP-HOLDER-ASTRA-H-VECTRA-C-BMW-MERC-UK-/250759971675?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item3a6275835b

????

Yeah thats the ones Im sure someone has put HIDS in a FL

Yeah thats the ones Im sure someone has put HIDS in a FL

Yes I have recently put canbus HIDs in my FL with stock clips....... But the problem em facing after installing is that the light goes shaking/shivering in potholes which is very irritating. I think the halogen projectors headlamps are not designed for HIDs.

The thing is I'm quite happy to snip a section out of my OEM clips with the shears however I think the lack of the pwer connector when using the HIDS will result in loose burners as seen by Alam.

I'll give these a go but I'm not convinced.......

watch this space!

The thing is I'm quite happy to snip a section out of my OEM clips with the shears however I think the lack of the pwer connector when using the HIDS will result in loose burners as seen by Alam.

I'll give these a go but I'm not convinced.......

watch this space!

I fitted them in my FL octy. Can't remember what i Modified but it works 100% without the need to buy anything extra

I have the same and did not change anything

The only thing I did was to cut/file the sides off the HID plugs.

Their is a certain position for the metal piece to adjust to the HID bulb.

I have the same and did not change anything

The only thing I did was to cut/file the sides off the HID plugs.

Their is a certain position for the metal piece to adjust to the HID bulb.

Yeah I know that, I have done the same.... But does your HIDs shakes/shivers slightly in potholes, just want to confirm that....

Regards

Alam

You think thats bad, my oem xenons shake over potholes so you arent any better off paying £40+ for a HID kit to what £600+ for oem xenons

No Alam, my HID does not shake or shiver.

I do have the negative plugged directly to the chassis and not into the original plug.

Try it out.

What make are your HIDs? Are they canbus. Connecting -ve with chassis would give any bulb failure indication?

Regards

Alam

Alberg

Got to ask why you've goen for a seperate earth?

Alam I have PM you

(Hi

My HID KIT is CANBUS an it is slim.

Brandname donnot know. My dad on his Toyota Verso (2009) and friends Fabia also have the same and no issues.

It did cost 75€.

No bulb error is given when plugged directly into the chassis.

Had 2 issues before plugging into the chassis.

1- sometimes one bulb came on and then off on start, either side

2- twice when lights on and pushed leever to wash front windshield, both bulbs flickered

After plugging the negative to chassis, never happened again.)

Wardth

The issues above was why I plugged directly to the chassis.( to try it out, it´s been 18 months after change)

Many negative wires run from one point to another and then are plugged into the chassis to one point.

Maybe, call me crazy, negative wires may also cause troubles in case of "backfire" in the electrical system

Edited 21 February, 201214 yr by alberg

Alam I have PM you

(Hi

My HID KIT is CANBUS an it is slim.

Brandname donnot know. My dad on his Toyota Verso (2009) and friends Fabia also have the same and no issues.

It did cost 75€.

No bulb error is given when plugged directly into the chassis.

Had 2 issues before plugging into the chassis.

1- sometimes one bulb came on and then off on start, either side

2- twice when lights on and pushed leever to wash front windshield, both bulbs flickered

After plugging the negative to chassis, never happened again.)

Wardth

The issues above was why I plugged directly to the chassis.( to try it out, it´s been 18 months after change)

Many negative wires run from one point to another and then are plugged into the chassis to one point.

Maybe, call me crazy, negative wires may also cause troubles in case of "backfire" in the electrical system

Well one of the issues is almost certainly the fact that you have a "Canbus" kit. This uses a large resistor to "load" the system to stop the bulb out warning being an issue. There is considerable evidence that this loading can cause serious electrical gremlins such as burnt out wiper motors etc. It is generally accepted that "Canbus" type kits are bad news and should not be used. A standard non-canbus kit is best and then use VCDS to code the vehicle.

xenon kits are now a mot fail (well auto level/wash part) so it will not pass your mot test

take the out re-fit old bulbs pass mot then refit xenon kit i hear you say, but now they are an mot fail the police/vosa can stop you and inpound your car and give you a nice big fine

I agree to you that canbus kits may cause some problem, but in new cars like FLs there is no VCDS coding for "cold lamp monitoring" and secondly the only xenon option in VCDS is "Bi-xenon (with shutters) installed active - unchecked. So in new cars you have no option other than installing canbus kits.

Regards

Alam

xenon kits are now a mot fail (well auto level/wash part) so it will not pass your mot test

take the out re-fit old bulbs pass mot then refit xenon kit i hear you say, but now they are an mot fail the police/vosa can stop you and inpound your car and give you a nice big fine

Yep thanks for that and all due respect but the why's and wherefores of using aftermarket HIDS has been done to death elsewhere on these forums.

I will be using them in projector lenses not reflector and the beam pattern and cutoff is exactly the same so no adverse spill or glare as long as I keep the llights clean (which I do).

As for Plod / VOSA knowing the difference - I seriously doubt it as its not a Fiesta with reflectors and I reckon they have other things to worry about than pulling over an 11 plate Octy!

I'm quite happy to take the risk given the increased safety advantage of additional visibility

This thread isn't about the legality or otherwise of aftermarket HID kits or my decision to fit one.

I agree to you that canbus kits may cause some problem, but in new cars like FLs there is no VCDS coding for "cold lamp monitoring" and secondly the only xenon option in VCDS is "Bi-xenon (with shutters) installed active - unchecked. So in new cars you have no option other than installing canbus kits.

Regards

Alam

This is a new one on me - didn't realise there was no option in VCDS to do this. Are you sure it's not just a "feature" of your vehicles in India?

I sincerely hope you are wrong! As far as I've been lead to believe you have to access controller 9 and set it to 'xenons without shutters' you can also turn off the cold diagnostic there.

Clips as above arrived today - Tim31 they do not fit!

Can somebody actually point me at a set of clips that WILL fit and also clarify the coding question raised by Alam? My kit is non-Canbus as recommended a thousand times on these forums.

This is a new one on me - didn't realise there was no option in VCDS to do this. Are you sure it's not just a "feature" of your vehicles in India?

I sincerely hope you are wrong! As far as I've been lead to believe you have to access controller 9 and set it to 'xenons without shutters' you can also turn off the cold diagnostic there.

Clips as above arrived today - Tim31 they do not fit!

Can somebody actually point me at a set of clips that WILL fit and also clarify the coding question raised by Alam? My kit is non-Canbus as recommended a thousand times on these forums.

On mine is the same.

'xenons without shutters', when I first tried this (vag 908) had the suprise to have the coming/leaving home on fogs and not maine beam.

Great topic here on this.

As for the cold lamp it only shows for the rear plate lights.

Now why do you need new clips, doesn´t the metal normal ones fit.

Edited 22 February, 201214 yr by alberg

xenon kits are now a mot fail (well auto level/wash part) so it will not pass your mot test

take the out re-fit old bulbs pass mot then refit xenon kit i hear you say, but now they are an mot fail the police/vosa can stop you and inpound your car and give you a nice big fine

As has been suggested earlier this thread is not about legality but I would suggest you look at the actual wording in the 2012 MOT guidance which states...

Vehicles equipped with High Intensity Discharge (HID) or LED dipped beam headlamps may be fitted with headlamp washers and a suspension or headlamp self levelling system.

Where such systems are fitted, they must work; however, it is accepted that it may not be possible to readily determine the functioning of self levelling systems. In such cases, the benefit of the doubt must be given.

Where HID or LED dipped beam headlamps are fitted, switch on the headlamps and check the operation of any headlamp levelling and cleaning devices fitted.

The reason for rejection is cited as:

A headlamp levelling or cleaning device inoperative or otherwise obviously defective.

Hence it is effectively says HID lights may be fitted with levelling and washers and IF fitted these must work properly. It does not say they MUST be fitted and hence a tester cannot fail a vehicle for a HID kit that does not have levelling or washers.

On mine is the same.

'xenons without shutters', when I first tried this (vag 908) had the suprise to have the coming/leaving home on fogs and not maine beam.

Great topic here on this.

As for the cold lamp it only shows for the rear plate lights.

Now why do you need new clips, doesn´t the metal normal ones fit.

Alberg can you confirm your vehicle is a Facelift model ?

Alberg can you confirm your vehicle is a Facelift model ?

Yes, 2010

Yep thanks for that and all due respect but the why's and wherefores of using aftermarket HIDS has been done to death elsewhere on these forums.

I will be using them in projector lenses not reflector and the beam pattern and cutoff is exactly the same so no adverse spill or glare as long as I keep the llights clean (which I do).

As for Plod / VOSA knowing the difference - I seriously doubt it as its not a Fiesta with reflectors and I reckon they have other things to worry about than pulling over an 11 plate Octy!

.....given that they are an option on the Octy anyway, I'd find it highly unlikely that you'd be stopped for it too. A mid-90's Fiesta on the other hand would be an obvious pull.

I have a FL vRS Octy and have as recommended here fitted NON canbus kit. Got my Dealer to re-code for them.

I also used the original clips, I think I snipped them somewhere and got them to work. I have absolutely NO shake from them.