very sorry that my first post is related to a kind of insatisfaction regarding the new skoda octavia .. but that's it and I have to research more to see if there isn't any chance a problem that could be solved

and I am reffering to the level of noise heard from the 1.9tdi/105hp engine that is so popular, reliable and low fuel consumption .. I've been driving the octy2 for some thousand kilometers now, inside cities and outside, on roads and motorways (austria, hungary) .. and I find the level of noise unacceptable for the class this new model .. the grounding noise is big when departing from 0kmph .. the short I and II gears are definitely heard and the vibration is present .. then in IIIrd, IVth or Vth gear .. everything above 2ooorpm is to be heard .. with an annoying point of vibration at arround 3ooorpm .. so on the speedway I go beyond 3ooorpm just to get rid of the vibration and that puts me over 140kmph .. the sound is present also for the passagers (I tried to get some sleep and gave the drive to a friend on the highway in hungary).. I always woke up to see what happens at some acceleration .. the roar of the engine is very disturbing

I know the diesels are not as quiet and smooth in operation like the petrol engines .. but I have driven the VW Passat and even the VW Bora .. with no particular problems regarding the noise in the car

now, I guess it can't be a problem only on my car .. one engine can't be noisier than other .. or soundproof more thin, or the build quality lesser, at most I will check in service the hood of the engine to see if it vibrates .. but the thing is that I find the level of noise too much .. even though I know the PD engines are rougher than the commonrails .. but Bora had also a PD and it was quieter

I would like to get your feedback on this matter .. your personal experiences with your octavia II 1.9tdi/105cp .. did you get used to the rattle of this engine while accelerating .. or maybe is it a problem with my car? while driving on a highway with 3ooorpm are you satisfied with the level of sound?

The demo 1.9 105hp new octavia elegance I drove had an acceptable noise level. The 2.0 140hp was (much) more quiet, but I went for the 1.9 105hp anyway, because a 2.0 costs to much here in belgium. It should arrive end of may :/

I don't have much to compare it with tho, my other car was 10 years old, and the only other car I tested was a toyota corolla 1.4 diesel 90hp, which you can't hear, AT ALL. I barely noticed the motor was running :-)

funny you should mention the noise levels in the new Octavia, The local dealer asked me if i had noticed annoying amounts of noise while driving, as he had recieved a couple of complaints about it, I have to say that there is no noticable road / engine noise over any other diesel car i have driven, Infact my new Occy 1.9 TDI PD 105 Elegance is quieter than my 1.9 TDI 110 Elegance.

Sorry this is no help to you

Well, I'll have to wait and see if mine's affected, but the 105PS Octavia II I test drove was considerably quieter than my Dad's Passat 130PS TDI

I've driven a fault-free 5,000 miles in my Octy 2 1.9Tdi 105Ps and agree that the engine noise level is higher than my previous diesel car, a 406 2.0 Hdi, but IMO still within acceptable levels.

My Ocy 2 1.9 TDI is just over 7 months old.

I don't find the engine at all noisy. A growl in low gears but nothing intrusive.

Road noise is far more noticable and drowns out any engine noise.

I do have the radio on most of the time, maybe it is masking the engine.

I have the new Ambience 19tdi105hp estate and it is unbelivable how much quieter it is than my 110hp Mk1 SLX that ive just changed

Is this 105bhp engine, non PD? Could this engine be marginally louded than PD engines its being compared to, like the PD130? :confused:

Other than that, I just thought all diesels made a lovely tractor noise. At the moment I have no rear seats fitted in my Fabia, so I get much more general road noise through the back. Normally though, when I've not got a blown 80a fuse in the bonnet, the music drowns out ALL noise. :speaker:

The 105 is a PD engine

Is this 105bhp engine' date=' non PD? Could this engine be marginally louded than PD engines its being compared to, like the PD130? :confused:

Other than that, I just thought all diesels made a lovely tractor noise. At the moment I have no rear seats fitted in my Fabia, so I get much more general road noise through the back. Normally though, when I've not got a blown 80a fuse in the bonnet, the music drowns out ALL noise. :speaker:[/quote']

The 105 bhp engine is PD but as these PD's don't yet come with piezo nozzles, the fuel is injected all athe same time, not gradulally (in multiple stages) like in the latest common rail engines. This "all at once" gives all the punch (and noise) in a shorter period of time and makes them noisier.

I also noticed the problem that while reving the engine from 2.900 to 3.000 rpm there is an unacceptable noise. It is not normal in my oppinion. I will try to push my dealer to fix it. I'm not sure if ti is not an exhaust system fault...

regards

I also noticed the problem that while reving the engine from 2.900 to 3.000 rpm there is an unacceptable noise. It is not normal in my oppinion. I will try to push my dealer to fix it. I'm not sure if ti is not an exhaust system fault...

regards

Hi everybody, it's my first e-mail here, but being New Octavia 2 TDI 105 DSG future owner (1 month more to go...), I'm tracking the forums right now. I've seen similar, very fresh discussion regarding identical problem on one of polish forums, conclusion was also exhaust system problem, but it's still not confirmed. I'll let you know if there is anything new on this.

Best Regards

Spider

In my case it's not about the exaust system, but the noise and vibration the engine makes when revving. The noise is supposed to be more faded down by the soundproofing, but the main 'ingredient' of the disconfort is the feeling of vibration in the pedal and in the left foot, in the gear shift and in the whole car (leading to some buzzing of some objects I carry in the door and formerly the cigarettes compartments).

I mention that under 25oormp, that's driving at 120kmph or less the ride is pleasant, giving the excelent handling and stability of the chassis, very good brakes and so on, but when driving 135-140kmph (exactly the speed I use for highways) the noise is present and disturbing. Also I have notices that beyond 140kmph .. no matter if you have 150, 160 or 170 kmph the noise stays the same .. it's ok if you get used to it, but I was hoping for more silence when I bought the octy2. And less grinding and vibration in 1st and 2nd gears.

What can be done in service? Maybe check the plastic hood of the engine for vibrations while revving? Or is it that I use Euro4 or Euro5 diesel fuel instead of Euro3?

the main 'ingredient' of the disconfort is the feeling of vibration in the pedal and in the left foot, in the gear shift and in the whole car (leading to some buzzing of some objects I carry in the door and formerly the cigarettes compartments).

That sounds like a fault. I have not experienced any of these problems in the seven months that I have had the car (1.9 TDI 105).

What about tires? Are they OK?

If it happens with the speed increasing, different RPM, I would rather exclude engine and exhaust system.

No idea so far...

Welcome to Briskoda, Spider, and thanks for the feedback.

Not a really good feedback, I'm affraid, but I tried to, anyway :-)

Thanks for welcome

Tyres are new, alloy wheels and on speedway the noise is more from the engine than from the tyres. I guess I should talk to another octy2 105hp owner to see if his car have the same level of noise and vibration. But I can't figure it out how can this be a fault in my car. I forgot to mention that I have owned and drove only petrol cars for ten years and I'm not used to diesels, but I've told you I've been also for a few thousands km with VWPassat and VWBora and never complained about intrusive noise from the engine.

Spider, it' not speed related, but rpm related, so it's definitely has to do with the engine operational noise, maybe soundproofing and the way the engine is linked to the chassis.

I guess I will buy the octy3 only if it will have a common-rail diesel engine .. and I will avoid the low-end cc because higher the hp, lower the noise

What about tires? Are they OK?

If it happens with the speed increasing' date=' different RPM, I would rather exclude engine and exhaust system.

No idea so far...[/quote']

Bugs, the guy on polish forum was describing problem as an increased noise around 2900-3000 RPM, maybe it's the same problem?

There are still suggestions it's exhaust system, he is going to service station on Saturday probably, so maybe there will be some feedback afterwards, will keep you updated.

My engine is ok in noise, mostly the tires (225/45) are making the noise above 120km/h for mine. I have the 1.9tdi estate

I usually don't go above 2900rpm, the car feels like it has less power above 2900rpm to me and since the car is fairly new (2000km) I'm still a bit easy on the engine. I do hear a bit of a growl in 1st and 2nd gear but I tought that was cool :p

Bugs' date=' the guy on polish forum was describing problem as an increased noise around 2900-3000 RPM, maybe it's the same problem?

There are still suggestions it's exhaust system, he is going to service station on Saturday probably, so maybe there will be some feedback afterwards, will keep you updated.[/quote']

it's me Spider

i was at the service today, took a service man for a ride. He said it has nothing to do with the exhaust... there was a lot of cars at the station, so i'm appointed back at 14, we will see what they say :confused:

OK Zeb, so I don't have to relay it for you any more, good to know :-)

Good luck to both of you guys with your problems, I just hope my car will have no problems.

Regards

Spider

yesterday I had a few rides with service guys, they heard the noise, but had no idea where it comes from :thumbdwn:

so the problem is not solved... i must drive my baby and see if the noise increases

can it be a rock or something that hit the under part of the car and that made a small hole into the exaust pipe? are the exaust pipes open for such accidents? and can the noise be from that? also .. anybody knows the way that the hood that covers the engine is tighly secured so that it doesn't vibrate when revving?

If it were engine related, then surely the noise would be present in all the gears at the same rpm that is shown for 140kph?

If this noise is appearing at 140kph, then it is road speed related isn't it? Could be mix of tyres, wind noise and maybe vibration from underbody protection panels.

I may be getting confused with the complaint tho....