Hi all,

Feels strange being on this part of the forum :p

My parents are looking at buying a Superb estate and they NEED to have dual zone climate control. So my question is, what model would you go for out of the following?

Superb estate S, 140bhp with Climate Control as an optional extra

OR

Superb estate SE, 105bhp with Climate control as standard

Thanks a lot

It depends if they need the extra performance of the 140. If not, go for the SE

Just what I was thinking. As many toys and as much omfort as possible please.

If they expect to use the car heavily-loaded, go for the 140. Remember that the Superb S is better specced than, say, the Octy S.

Stuart

Car won't be used for heavy loads etc and may cover 8,000 miles per year maximum. Just my father would like to have that extra power that the 140 would be able to offer. 105bhp does seem a bit of a miss matched engine for what is essentially a small spacecraft .

Does anyone have experience of this particular engine? We are test driving it next week.

Finally, what are the key differences between the two specifications?

Thanks for your help so far :sun:

Haven't been in one myself, but from what everyone says on the forum, it feels quite gutsy for a 105. You could also get it remapped now they've worked out how to do it on that engine

Go for the SE you get so much more equipment, 105bhp is Ok and like dobbey said get it remapped if you need extra power, also Tax and Insurance will be cheaper.

Go for the SE you get so much more equipment, 105bhp is Ok and like dobbey said get it remapped if you need extra power, also Tax and Insurance will be cheaper.

AFAIK it's not certain it can be remapped, and if you did, your insurance could well be more than for a 140.

The 'S' spec is already pretty good giving you amongst other things:

16" alloys, 3 headrests, 3.5mm aux socket, 8 speakers, 4 spoke steering wheel, air conditioned glovebox, black roof rails, curtain airbags, drivers knee airbag, electric heated door mirrors, ESP et al, front armrest, Light Assistant, manual air con, SWING radio.

The SE adds the following:

17" alloys, 4 spoke leather multi function steering wheel, rear park sensors, alcantara seats, floor plates in boot with tether system, boarding spots (under mirrors), plenty of chrome (roof rails, lower boot trim, window surrounds and lower grille), cruise control, dual zone air con, electric folding door mirrors, BOLERO radio, maxi-dot, driver and passenger lumbar support, cornering front fog lights, height adjustable front armrest

The uplift in price for a bog standard S CR 140 (£20,480 OTR) against an SE CR 140 (£22,670) is £2,190 which is good value. The on cost alone for cruise, dual zone and rear sensors (as options on the S) is £1,065.

There are many Superb GL drivers on here with the 1.6 CR engine who say it is fine.

How long are they planning on keeping the car? 8k per year isn't much so if they could afford it go for the 140 SE as ultimately this will hold it's value better than, say, a 105 S ??

Thanks for that Coops. SE is very well spec'd, I suspect they will be going for that over the S. It's good to hear other people find the 1.6 perfectly driveable.

The car is actually on Motability, probably something I should have mentioned earlier, so depreciation etc isn't really a problem. The models I have mentioned are the only ones which are available. I just can't understand why the 1.6SE is available and the 2.0 isn't?

Only doing 8000 miles a year, would a petrol be a better choice, if its on the motability list? The 1.8TSI has plenty of poke, but is a similar cost to the 1.6 diesel...

My last company car was a Superb hatchback 1.9tdi in 'S' spec, although, I did add cruise, Bolero, headlight washers, rear side blinds and a leather trimmed three spoke steering wheel.

'SE' spec gives quite a lot of extra equipment as standard, as well as chrome window trim which used to be standard on 'S' models and cannot be ordered as a factory upgrade.

From new, the engine was very hesitant, however, a remap at 3,000 miles transformed the driving experience. In addition, this engine (non-Greenline) doesn't have a DPF, which is one less worry. My remapped Superb recorded an average of 57mpg and covered almost 95,000 miles in just under 3 years.

The current 1.6Tdi 105 is begging for a remap, however, no major remapper has yet to offer this service to the public.

If I was a low mileage driver, I'd strongly consider either the 1.4Tsi or 1.8Tsi. When my current Superb was serviced last week I had a Octy Estate 1.4Tsi (122Ps) which was a revelation. The car pulled strongly in all gears and the light action six speed gearbox was more enjoyable than the five speed gearbox in my Superb.

The six speed box with the 2.0 is another advantage over the 1.6"

Have you tried the 5 speed? Lots of people say its quite nice. they changed the ratios to compensate for the lack of sixth. They didn't simply take the sixth cog out like many first think

The rear parking sensors and maxidot are worth the extra money, so I would ge for the SE over the S.

I had a test drive in the 5 speed 1.4 Superb estate I did not like it, very under powred, I have the 1.8tsi Octy Scout due to have the 1.8TSI Superb Estate delivered ,being built week 19 (next week). Should be with me end of May,I think the SE is well worth the extra cost over the S level.

The S model fails because of another of Skoda's "won't do" options.sillyness.

You don't get lumbar support on the S seats and they won't offer it as an option or let you choose SE spec seats instead.

This alone for me is enough to rule out the S model.

The S model fails because of another of Skoda's "won't do" options.sillyness.

You don't get lumbar support on the S seats and they won't offer it as an option or let you choose SE spec seats instead.

This alone for me is enough to rule out the S model.

You can specify lumbar support on both front seats on the 'S' for £85.

what about going for a petrol, a 1.4 or 1.8 and getting it in Elegance spec?

8k miles aint gonna warrant a diesel, fuel price over mileage etc. and no DPF to worry about if it's only doing short runs.

Al.

ps. Yes, i know, i have a 170 and do too many miles for a petrol...

You can specify lumbar support on both front seats on the 'S' for £85.

That must be new then. The brochure I saw showed you can't. I phoned Skoda to ask why and they confirmed the position and couldn't explain why. I pointed out that the most natural choice for Superb as a taxi ( for most purchasers ) is the S model, while someone spending a lot of time in the car would want to have lumbar support. I pointed out this was another of several ways in which Skoda were shooting themselves in the foot for the taxi market ( mainly with the ill conceived Greenline models ).

Okay, so now they are offering it ? If so, good.

Okay, so now they are offering it ? If so, good.

Yep, it is listed in the latest brochure online as FocusZtec describes @ £85 for the "S"

That must be new then. The brochure I saw showed you can't. I phoned Skoda to ask why and they confirmed the position and couldn't explain why. I pointed out that the most natural choice for Superb as a taxi ( for most purchasers ) is the S model, while someone spending a lot of time in the car would want to have lumbar support. I pointed out this was another of several ways in which Skoda were shooting themselves in the foot for the taxi market ( mainly with the ill conceived Greenline models ).

Okay, so now they are offering it ? If so, good.

It's been in the brochure since Nov last year.