On the towbar note, did you know that BMW refuse to fit a towbar to one of their ED cars as it defeats the object of having an efficient car if you are going to tow!

They clearly haven't thought of the other uses for a towbar, such as a bike carrier :think:

On the towbar note, did you know that BMW refuse to fit a towbar to one of their ED cars as it defeats the object of having an efficient car if you are going to tow!

They clearly haven't thought of the other uses for a towbar, such as a bike carrier :think:

Isn't that an urban myth? The real reason being the type approved towbar does not fit the ED's modified bodywork. Not worth type approving a new towbar for an individual model.

Ford did the same with some ST models

Cheers

Lee

Isn't that an urban myth? The real reason being the type approved towbar does not fit the ED's modified bodywork. Not worth type approving a new towbar for an individual model.

Ford did the same with some ST models

Cheers

Lee

probably but that's what mates friend was told when he ordered his lease car, of course being lease it isn't worth paying for an aftermarket one.

yep, similar story with skoda, towbar and proper spare wheel not a factory option due to wieght etc

but dealer happy to supply both

My engine does stop when it's not up to temperature though.

Depends on your definition of "up to temp" - and probably not the same as the engines version (which may be anything over 65 or 70 degrees - this may not even show on the placebo gauge on the dash).

Depends on your definition of "up to temp" - and probably not the same as the engines version (which may be anything over 65 or 70 degrees - this may not even show on the placebo gauge on the dash).

also depends on if they are measuring oil or water temp

Get water to 90 degress and oil up to 80 degrees before playing.

Just had a read of the manual and on page 89 it gives details of how to turn off the stop-start....its the button with an A surrounded by a circle.

hth

I would Definetly recomend a greenline. I've had my estate since January & put 12000 ish on it since then. I have a commute of 70 miles to work on half Aroads & half motorway.

I used an app called road trip to log every time I fill up. Over all I'm averaging 73, however for the first 6k this was nearer 65mpg, since then I have been averaging nearly 80 (79.4mpg). It did take me a while to learn to drive this car to get the best out of it and to switch from cheap Irish diesel (my work takes me close to the border a number of times per month) to BP ultimate.... And keeping my tyres at the maximum preasure in the manual.

I don't really slipstream lorries etc, as although my mpg skyrocketed, I found it fairly dangerous & ended up shattered due to the concentration.

I generally sit about 25-30m back from lorries and find it helps with out a. Annoying the driver in front b. being dangerous & c. I'm not as tired when I get to work.

May ask you how you feel the car and how to you manage with the maximum torque at 2000 rpm? Do you drive usually at rates lower than 2000 rpm or higher?

May ask you how you feel the car and how to you manage with the maximum torque at 2000 rpm? Do you drive usually at rates lower than 2000 rpm or higher?

I bought my used Fabia Greenline a month ago, and after driving for some 1500 miles, the torque is starting to annoy me. At regular speed on even roads my revs are slightly under 1500 rpm, or even less, much too low for that extra throttle when you need to accelerate from a lower to a higher speed limit, let alone when you meet that occasional steep hill (it doesn't even have to be steep, just a minor incline is enough to "choke" the engine). The old 1.4 TDI PD was much better, it would start pulling from even as low as 1200rpm.

That said, once you get used to the car, and once you start driving like you only have one tank left for your entire life, fuel mileage is exceptionally good. So far I'm averaging 68mpg (as monitored on spritmonitor.de), but I'm hoping to push it beyond 70mpg by my next filling. In fact, I did manage to reach 90mpg during a 80-mile trip the other day, which has helped keeping the average down for my current filling.

Edited 3 May, 201313 yr by jankph

Welcome to the forum.

How was your 1.4 TDI PD for economy, did it match the Greenline?

The Greenlines gearing and how they engineered the gear ratios, is what makes the difference to economy in some types of driving & use.

It can not only be down to a Smoother Underside, lower suspension, Tyre type and size & unladen weight.

The has to be a compromise someplace and thats often having to change gear to get up inclines.

george

EDIT, oops, sorry, is it just the engine in the Fabia & not actually any difference in gear ratios?

http://www.carenthus...irst-drive.html

With the Greenline II you need to work the gears more, that's just how they are.

Change down when you need the torque and then change up where possible for crusing while using little fuel.

I did 20k miles in mine in one year and averaged 72mpg (real, not display) in that time.

But it didn't give it's best mpg until after 5,000 miles.

How was your 1.4 TDI PD for economy, did it match the Greenline?

The 1.4 TDI did 60mpg on average over 3 years, so the Greenline is definitely much better. However, I found the 1.4 much more fun to drive. That was a real workhorse and an engine that was practically impossible to choke even at extremely low revs.

On another note, the fuel display in my Greenline is surprisingly accurate, like minus 1-2% at the most, based on my fillings so far.

Edited 3 May, 201313 yr by jankph

This thread made me smile on a Dull Bank Holiday.

A OP on MPG by someone that takes the Mick out of others MPG posts.

george

This thread made me smile on a Dull Bank Holiday.

A OP on MPG by someone that takes the Mick out of others MPG posts.

george

That'll be before he bought the car and subsequently sold it as it didn't perform as well as the figures? I guess you noticed the start date of the thread?

Yes, are we talking about 'bluecar1' & the Greenline II.

car bought within the last year.

A post pre purchase.

A bit like the Twincharger owner that bought the car in the last week and made a post after finding out what his car was like.

Then gets the Mick taken.

'Sauce for the Goose....

george

looking at getting a greenline 1.2tdi for the wife

skoda seem to quote some very good economy figures

Economy

Fuel consumption - Urban 68.9

Fuel consumption - Extra urban 94.2

Fuel consumption - Combined 83.1

Fuel tank - litres 45

what are peoples real world figures for the green line compared to these

and how do people find the stop start system?

we were originally looking at the citigo elegance greentech for economy and purchase cost, but with the VAT free offer at the moment it makes the greenline fabia virtually the same cost for a bigger car but better with economy, performance and standard equipment

I got rid of my 18 month old Fabia Greenline Diesel 2 months ago purely on the grounds I could never get more than 50 MPG. It went in and out of the dealers four or five times to be told there was nothing wrong with the car. Rubbish! I now have a Kia Rio and getting 65 MPG and still climbing by the day. The quoted figures for the Greenline are total nonsense! You have been warned!

I got rid of my 18 month old Fabia Greenline Diesel 2 months ago purely on the grounds I could never get more than 50 MPG. It went in and out of the dealers four or five times to be told there was nothing wrong with the car. Rubbish! I now have a Kia Rio and getting 65 MPG and still climbing by the day. The quoted figures for the Greenline are total nonsense! You have been warned!

i have had my GLII for just under a year averaged 62mpg since new total, some runs I have got mid / high 80's, just about to go in for 1st service at 18k (on variable)

the wife is using it at the moment for short commutes (<10 miles) and still averaging high 50's

there is supposed to be a software update for mine which is supposed to reduce regen's and improve mpg, we will see

the mk1 vrs of the wife is going to make way for a citigo greentech elegance 75ps (due 6-8 weeks, no build week yet) the one we test drove did 58.7 mpg according to PID over 8 miles from cold, 4 miles motorway, 4 miles A / town roads, much better than the low 40's we are getting out of VRS, no road tax, far lower insurance (as mk1 vrs seems to have got the "boy racer" ticket from insurers now)

doing a trip from kent to brum for work,

 

172 miles

steady 56mph on cruise all way

93.5 MPG !!!

 

did see 95.5MPG at the M40 / M42 split but the last few miles of side roads took it down :(

 

so the extra urban figure is possible on odd runs

 

try and break the 100mpg next on way back

 

still says range 515 miles

 

started run as it just took first segment off fuel display and 170miles later still has 3/4 tank left

 

did it teleport or use air for fuel ?

Edited 1 October, 201312 yr by bluecar1

Nope - you'll start it next time and it will all plummet!

yes, fuel display analogic indicator is logarithmic, not linear.

Edited 3 October, 201312 yr by PTG

done another 30 miles today, no plummet, 60+mpg

 

will post the tank to tank mpg when I fill up in a week or so

Now you're just teasing...I thought I was on to a good tank.  49.5mpg...that will be the last few blasts I had to make, losing 80 miles of range in a 20 mile journey!

Had my GL-II Estate for 9 weeks today!, and I've done nearly 3500 miles. I do approx 360miles a week too and from work (3 day's in the office 2 day's from home!) from Swindon to Ubxridge (London) so on the M4 at a nice 69mph (set by GPS) on Cruise Control, Plus Weekend pottering etc...

 

As I do the morning trip at 5:30am I have my Headlights on, and due to the crappy weather the Air-Con is usually keeping the windscreen clear for 80% of the journey!.

 

So far my Average (from Fuelly - See my Sig) is 61.9mpg, which is a vast improvement over my old Civic which barely did 40mpg on the same trip!

average milage tank on tank is 60-65mpg

 

longer runs on I regularly see 70+mpg