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How Bad Does A Car Need to Be Before You Can Reject It?

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The parking sensors don't like getting wet. Happens on mine all the time and is annoying.

Mine only whistles above 75mph - seems to be saying to me "Wheeeeeeeeeeee this is FUN . . . . .! "

Same here I've had the wet parking sensor issue a few times

Evening Peachers,

I suffer from the false PDC warning also. It would appear water gets trapped in the sensor and mostly occurs after heavy rainfall or early morning dew. I am that used to it that I ignore it.

I thought I was suffering from whislting from the front, but I eventually worked it out the sound was coming from the drivers side door seal, just below the mirror housing. If you sit more to the centre of the car, it still sounds like it is coming from somewhere near the grille/headlights.

Last week I became aware of the rubbing noise when on full lock, it has just came back from a service and has been checked out fine.

The door seal issue is currently being discussed as a warranty jobbie, as is the plastic release for the rear central arm rest which decided to snap off after only being used on two occasions.

We all have different tolerance levels as to how things should be, and although I am not considering rejecting my car, I can understand the way you feel.

Good luck getting the issues resolved.

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percymon states " if you have a Friday lemon of a car wih lots of issues it becomes more difficult to reject. " Why is this? I'd have thought a Friday lemon with lots of faults would be easy to reject.

In order for your to reject the car, the dealer(s) must have been unable to fix it. Whilst you don't legally have to give the three attempts referred to above, you must have allowed the supplier 'reasonable opportunity' to have rectified the problem.

So - one fault that keeps coming back = plenty of opportunities to fix it, and clearly failure to do so. Several different faults one after the other = a dealer successfully fixing every problem you send to him.

In order for your to reject the car, the dealer(s) must have been unable to fix it. Whilst you don't legally have to give the three attempts referred to above, you must have allowed the supplier 'reasonable opportunity' to have rectified the problem.

So - one fault that keeps coming back = plenty of opportunities to fix it, and clearly failure to do so. Several different faults one after the other = a dealer successfully fixing every problem you send to him.

what he said !

I only suffered this once, back in September 2005 - took 2 weeks to sort the refunds etc as i had to sign forms to remove me as the first owner on the V5 as I'd never officially taken delivery. Dealership didnt seem to have an issue selling it on somewhere else, obviously not everyone as fussy as me when spending a lot of money !

Hi, the issue you have with the stereo not silencing when you select reverse is a firmware update on the stereo; all new boleros and columbus' are delivered this way. I personally like it, as you say, you just have to mess with the settings to get the level you're happy with.

The funny rubbing noise seems to be quite common, I also get it and I would bet on it being the power steering pump. It doesn't happen all the time though. I thought it was my brakes binding at first; but it's happened on both my VRS's.

I get the ghost sensor now and again (Once a month) and is always the same one. It's probably a fault but don't have time to sort it for a while. I don't rely on them anyway I always look where I'm reversing.

I have a ghost sensor front right occasionally, a wipe down & a tap sorts it, I will ask the dealer to check the wire behind to make sure its connected properly & securely, along with waterproof connection.

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Interesting to hear that other people have had similar problems with their cars, especially in relation to the parking sensors. Car is booked in to the dealer to be checked tomorrow and funnily enough the sensor seems to have stopped playing up now :@

Is everything documented ???

If yes give the dealer one more chance to fix it & put in writing to them that if its not fixed you are rejecting it. make sure you get a loan car & give them as long as they want. When it comes back if its not right hand it back, demand another loaner & keep it until its resolved. You cant reject a car & carry on driving it. Compare it to complaining about food at a restaurant but continuing to eat it, if you are eating it you are to an extent happy with it.

Sounds to me like you have a pretty average "dont really care " dealer who needs refocusing on what he should be doing !!! We had a few niggles with our new Scout, headlights not aligned, rattley dash, wind noise, tailgate rattle etc etc. Dealer had if for a day & 62000 miles later its still perfect

Some information for rejecting a vehicle for you.

I had a VRS from new for 2 years so with the great deals on offer ordered another one in March this year.

This one had a big problem in that it whistled at motorway speeds quite loudly like a steam kettle on the stove.

The dealer had it in 3 times and on the last of these it came back worse, much louder on the motorway.

You have to give them the oppurtunity to fix the problems before rejecting it.

On the 4th visit they wouldn't take it in.

In parallel with this there were cases open with Skoda UK and the finance company as well.

In the end I formally rejected the vehicle and it is about to be swapped over.

You have to force the issue and chase people down but at the end of the day they are changing the vehicle.

The dealer was good as were Skoda UK , the finance company slowed it down by taking ages to appoint a case manager (5 weeks)

You have to get all parties to agree to a rejection.

Good luck

I doubt if you will be able to reject it, IIRC the lemon law was brought in to protect against those Friday afternoon cars, but I thought the fault had to make the car undriveable, and it be the same fault that occurs 3 times. The lemon law is in the US, there is not a direct UK equivalent, although some manufacturers have written an equivalent in to the new car warranty.

You are reliant on the Sale Of Goods Act and the Motor Industry Code of Practice, so in the first 6 months the onus is on the supplier (i.e dealer) to fix the issue, you don't have to prove the fault was there from day one. After 6 months you do have to prove the fault has existed from day one. Otherwise it is just a warranty repair.

Put everything in writing to the supplying dealer and SUK and give them a final chance to fix all issues, stating that if they don't you will be wanting a replacement car.

I suspect wipers or doorseal for the whistling and a faulty reversing sensor is easily replaced. The ECU will have a fault code stored for it, they don't need to replicate the fault.

The stereo is more than likely firmware, the rubbing noise could be anything, but power steering pump is the obvious one.

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