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1.8 Estate 4x4 Real World Economy

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Apologies if this has been asked before.

What sort of real world economy figures are owners of this model seeing both on a steady 70mph motorway run and around town?

Thanks

Steve

I topped about 40mpg when I took one out on a test drive (DSG 2WD). I was told by the dealer that the average is about 37mpg so expect a little less from mixed driving.

In contrast, the Greenline that I actually went for gets over 60mpg in the real world consistently (about 35% urban).

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But that was a 2wd DSG.

Does anyone own a 1.8 4x4 manual?

A quick look on the Skoda used car website shows a big difference between the prices of a 1.8 petrol and a 170PS TDi car. Providing the economy isn't too rubbish, petrol might be the wise choice.

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Steve

Steve, not an owner of the specific vehicle but nearer than a 2wd dsg! I see 32+ on my daily stop start 10 mile commute, mid 20's when thrashing it, 44 on a long 70mph run and I've seen the high side of 52mpg when driving on the flat at 60mph with cruise enabled. Over the course of my current 3,600 journey I've averaged 42 iirc. Hope that's of some help.

it seems strange to me that all these petrol drivers seem to get the same mpg as the diesel drivers.

the fact is you will get around ten miles to the gallon less with a petrol car than you will get with a diesel no matter who you are.

bill

Driven correctly the derv will produce more mpg as stated. But really depends how you drive for getting great mpg and you will find that you have to drive a petrol v's diesel different to get the best. Certainly most of the modern dervs will do more mpg all day everyday but fuel does cost more

I am about to get an estate powered by the fuel of satan lol

Im not a fan or ever been a fan of diesels but they are getting better but for my work use and trailering etc with some software on a modern vag diesel is hard to beat even if slightly boring :D

For me a diesel saves me at least £1k a year on private fuel usuage hence the final change

My problem is lack of driving miss daisy lol

DG

it seems strange to me that all these petrol drivers seem to get the same mpg as the diesel drivers.

the fact is you will get around ten miles to the gallon less with a petrol car than you will get with a diesel no matter who you are.

bill

That's about right from experience (I drive a diesel most days) but the diesel is far more variable given different temperatures and trip length. It only runs optimally after a longer warm up period, running on summer diesel mix and on a longer run from experience. I'll be replacing that car with a petrol tsi next, just like the Yeti has. :-)

On my work commute (which I know well), I could get 55mph out of a 1.4 TSI Octavia but no more. Maybe with a totally clear run I could hit 60 but I'm not sure. Out of the heavier Superb with a larger 1.6 Diesel I often get over 70mph and hit a peak of 86mpg last week.

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But a 1.6 Greenline has 100bhp whereas the 1.8 has 160bhp.

My 320 Efficient Dynamics can do an easy 72+mpg on a run with 160bhp, it's just a bit small.

Steve

But a 1.6 Greenline has 100bhp whereas the 1.8 has 160bhp.

My 320 Efficient Dynamics can do an easy 72+mpg on a run with 160bhp, it's just a bit small.

Steve

Grab a new 5 series then. 187bhp from the new 2 litre diesel and its group D car tax. The Greenline is very efficient but not that quick but its much better for relaxed driving. To be honest, 160bhp isn't that much if you want proper pace. I could get 35mpg out of an M3 on a run and that had 343bhp, you won't see much more from a 1.8 4x4.

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Interesting article on Diesel vs Petrol.

http://www.confused.com/car-insurance/articles/petrol-vs-diesel-which-is-the-most-economical-fuel?MediaCode=806&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Newsletter&utm_source=Newsletter13Aug

Also when I bought my current Superb there was no VAT reduction available on Diesels.

If the diesel has an average 8 year payback, then any car expected to last longer than 8 years should be diesel?

That was the worst case argument put forward (8 years of urban driving in a 5 series petrol vs diesel). Other cars were 3 years payback.

So economically, all cars should then be diesel, as even if you don't keep them for the full payback period, your resale values will be higher to reflect that.

Regarding driving enjoyment. I've driven 2wd A4's with both the 1.8tsi engine and 2.0tdi 140hp. Both the same multitronic gearbox.

I found the petrol completely characterless and boring to drive. Push pedal and it goes faster. But no surge or torque, no thrust feelng. If it wasn't for the needle climbing I would have sworn we weren't accelerating.

At 2000rpm the tdi had around 320Nm on tap, the tsi around 230Nm. That is why the tsi felt so lacking, at 2000rpm the tdi has 50% more power and torque. Power figures don't matter until you are turning the rpm that peak power is found at.

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I have had the Superb 1.8tsi 4x4 SE estate for about 3 month ,and 2500M on the clock.I have done an average of about 38MPG

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I have had the Superb 1.8tsi 4x4 SE estate for about 3 month ,and 2500M on the clock.I have done an average of about 38MPG

Cheers!

Steve

Hi,

I've just swapped from an Octavia Scout, initially to a Superb 1.8 4x4 Estate. However, I could not get anything like the milage I was hoping for, at best around 36 mpg on a steady motorway run (70 ish) and other than that low 30's at best. Just changed to a TDi 170 4x4 Estate and on the same steady run (slightly more than 70 ish) I was getting 48 mpg (on an engine with less than 2000 miles on the clock) and much more relaxed power delivery.

It might be my driving style (I've driven diesels for about the last 12 years) and I liked driving the 1.8 (absolutely silent most of the time), but while I knew the mpg would be worse, not to the extent that it was.

Personally, I don't think it's your driving style, this is my experience of driving the same vehicle (Range Rover) in both petrol and diesel too.

I've personally always found petrols to be more variable in their consumption between urban, mixed and motorway. Diesels on the other hand have proved to have less variation. I've alo found in real life that diesels tend to be significantly closer to manufacturer figures than petrols do. You seem to have a lot less surprises when comparing your own figures on a diesel with the manufacturers.

When I replace my current car, I may consider a petrol if Skoda are still pursuing their policy of heavily discounting petrol versions, if not, it will probably be a diesel again. Fuel prices appear to be always rising, and in a car the size of a superb estate, petrol would have to come along way to get over the fill up shock that a car doing late twenties would bring. I moved from a car doing early twenties with a 100L tank and I'm always glad I don't have that anymore.

Cheers

Steve

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