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I have drums on the rear axle in my fabia and I want to upgrade to a better technology! I found a 2004 front wheel drive 2.0 Octavia in the salvage yard with disk brakes at the back. Would they fit if I buy them?

Not really. I think you would be better getting the rear beam from a fabia with discs at the rear so you get the right size beam and all the Hoses and fittings etc. then you'll need to think about abs etc.

I have drums on the rear axle in my fabia and I want to upgrade to a better technology! I found a 2004 front wheel drive 2.0 Octavia in the salvage yard with disk brakes at the back. Would they fit if I buy them?

I did this to my old fabia sdi. All u need is rear discs. Pads. Calipers. Carriers. Disc backing plates. Flexi brake pipes. Handbrake cables. 4 x caliper bolts + 4 x caliper carrier bolts.

The calipers/ carriers/ discs + pads off a mk1 octy will fit but u will have 2 get the other bits from skoda ;)

Drum brakes are entirely adequate on the back of most FWD cars, because under hard braking the back wheels aren't doing much more than stopping the bumper scraping along the road.

Drum brakes are entirely adequate on the back of most FWD cars, because under hard braking the back wheels aren't doing much more than stopping the bumper scraping along the road.

^^ agreed.... but they look GASH if u have alloys on.. and even more GASH when painted lol :D :D

The drum brakes on mrs grrs sdi were way more effective than the disc setup on my vRS. Agreed they look gash though.

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All I know that they are not doing anything at the back especially when I compare them to other FWD cars I drove.

Thanks very much guys :)

^^ agreed.... but they look GASH if u have alloys on.. and even more GASH when painted lol :D :D

Seems to be quite a lot of work for as you put it GASH, but in real terms not any real improvement in the braking department.

^^ my drums were knackered when i bought the car + the price difference in buying new shoes/ cylinders etc + doing disc conversion was less than £50.. + the wheels i was running at the time had massive gaps inbetween the spokes.. showing off the "beautiful" rusty drums lol :D

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I drove a lot of cars with different sizes. What I mostly face is the brakes overheating. Once I made the front disks glow on an accord although I was not pushing it. Anyway, I NEVER faced this problem with the fabia; however, this little thing does not like to stop! It like to lock front wheels a lot though while the rear ones stand there cheering for them :/

One car amazed me with its braking; I had a 2003 focus with very aggressive coil-overs. When I say aggressive I mean that car body was 8 cm away from the ground. Everything else was stock on it; even the wheels and tires. The car stopped and handled like a dream.

I am hopping with disk brakes at the back and proper lowering I would solve the braking problem :/

I drove a lot of cars with different sizes. What I mostly face is the brakes overheating. Once I made the front disks glow on an accord although I was not pushing it. Anyway, I NEVER faced this problem with the fabia; however, this little thing does not like to stop! It like to lock front wheels a lot though while the rear ones stand there cheering for them :/

I had brake fade on a standard vRS, all 4 discs glowing and no brakes whatsoever... The standard 288mm setup is utter sh*te, hence why everyone upgrades to the 312mm setup :)

Once I fitted the 312's, I never had an issue with slowing down again.

To upgrade yours, I would imagine you are going to need the larger hubs, as well as the bigger brakes

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I think I would be fine. I don't have much power to go crazy fast anyway. BTW, does the vRS has an LSD as standard?? The torque figures you are getting out of your cars is a bit alarming when it comes such to small FWD cars with not much rubber on the road.

Does the vRS have a LSD as standard??? We wish :rofl: they might go round corners a bit better if they did...

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Does the vRS have a LSD as standard??? We wish :rofl: they might go round corners a bit better if they did...

Man! .. your running almost 300Nm .... Don't you light up the front tires every time you touch the throttle??

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Its nearer to 403nm or 297lb/ft. I think.. It's nowhere near as much as some others on here. Its only a handful in the wet on full throttle. The ESP helps to reign it in a bit. I rarely drive with it switched off.

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The first thing I do after starting up my 197 is switching off the ESP. I cant stand electronic systems telling me how to drive but I do it mainly because it is bad for the clutch and front brakes.

400Nm!!! .. This is as much as a moderate V8 would give .. That is total madness with relatively skinny tires :/

Its also why they eat clutches lol

BTW, does the vRS has an LSD as standard?

The answer is yes and no.

The car doesn't have a mechanical LSD as you would normally expect. It does have electronic one, called EDL (Electronic Diff Lock) that tries to act like one. It uses the ABS sensors to sense if one of the drive wheels is rotating faster than the other. It will then brake that drive wheel until both the drive wheels are at the same speed.

However, a few members on here (eg Devonutopia) have fitted mechanical LSDs, made by Peloquin, with great success.

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The answer is yes and no.

The car doesn't have a mechanical LSD as you would normally expect. It does have electronic one, called EDL (Electronic Diff Lock) that tries to act like one. It uses the ABS sensors to sense if one of the drive wheels is rotating faster than the other. It will then brake that drive wheel until both the drive wheels are at the same speed.

However, a few members on here (eg Devonutopia) have fitted mechanical LSDs, made by Peloquin, with great success.

I know what is that and my clio has the same system. BTW, it takes the steering angle into consideration too.

Anyway, these systems patch the problem only and don't let the car live for its full potential. Moreover, they stress the drive train beyond belief. LSDs are the way to go and I don't understand why most of you don't have it by now. Your cars are running massive torques on skinny tires. LSD is a must in this case. Just to put things into prospective, The maximum torque the clio makes is around 200Nm @ 5500. Your cars are making 400Nm mostly around 2000RPM. I bet your would be burning tires @ 1st, 2nd, and 3rd on a rapid acceleration.

From my opinion, my 197 does not need the LSD in general especially with the 225s because it is a balanced package. however, I am looking into buying one. I am doing some autocross and the car isn't putting its power down properly going out of corners @ 1st, 40-50km/h.

No offence guys, your cars are FWD muscle cars ... After this my membership here would be revoked :p

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