hello. not been on here for a while. currently reside on SeatCupra.net. im thinking of swapping my Leon Cupra and joining the Octavia Family. main reasons being Fuel consumption. cost me £50 to run from Norfolk to Essex and back on sunday and this wont do.Im looking for an Octavia mk2 CR 170 VRS with DSG.but for love nor money can i work out when the CR engine started :(is the DPF issue fully sorted in the CR engine also. i only do city driving (Edited as this isnt true as i dont use my car much in City). less that 4k miles a year.cheerslee

Edited 16 October, 201213 yr by leekeene

I wouldn't suggest going for a diesel if you're only doing 4k a year in the city.

Even with the CR engine that will likely lead to DPF issues.

On a short run the CR is not overly great on fuel. Maybe a

TSi would be better?

2009 on facelift or the limited edition (CR170) that is.

i have a tfsi at the moment. i get 19 to 23 mpg.

a Diesel Octavia will defo be more economical.

the problem is i dont drive that often. but when i do its a trip to my Mums (70 mile round trip), Dads (400 mile round trip) or Nans (150 Mile round trip which recently cost me £50 to do at 33 MPG). its bound to be more economical that what i do now.

You need to work out what mileage you do per year and work out the cost of fuel for the petrol versus cost of fuel for the diesel (real worl mpg figures, not published). This will give you the difference in costs between petrol & diesel, however this is only a very small part of the overall cost.

A diesel vehicle will invariably cost quite a bit more to purchase, and you won't get anywhere near the price difference back when you come to sell it on afterwards. Depreciation, insurance, road tax & servicing are all other factors that you need to take into account.

Off the top of my head some basic figures mean that it will almost always work out cheaper overall to buy/run a petrol unless you are regularly doing over 18000 miles a year and plan on keep the vehicle in excess of 3-4 years. (I cannot persuade the wife of this fact though as she only puts fuel into the car, I foot the bill for up all the other running costs).

An example being that on a trip to visit relatives 300+ miles away (plus running about whilst there), the total trip cost for fuel in my old A6 diesel was about £75. My current petrol 120i "only" averaged 34mpg and cost £80 for the whole trip in fuel. The petrol is cheaper per litre which means although it is using more, it is not as expensive to buy in the first place.

That said, I prefer the extra torque that a turbo diesel gives, which is why I've ordered one - it certainly isn't because it will work out cheaper.

i have to use the expensive stuff in my car as its been tuned so fuel price is the same for Super Petrol and Standard Diesel.as i said 33 mpg out of the Seat on a run to Essex and i wasnt driving hard or fast that was 75 most of the way with cruise set. i would like to think 50mpg for the Octavia on this run.

Petrol Diesel

Pump Price (p) 154.9 154.9

Price per Gallon £7.04 £7.04

MPG 33 50

Mile driven 186 186

Cost Per Mile £0.21 £0.14

Cost of Drive £39.69 £26.20

Edited 16 October, 201213 yr by leekeene

It may seem like a lot of money in fuel but its nothing compared with the cost of changing car.

If you enjoy driving your tuned Cupra *shudder* why compromise? And have you tried running yours on ordinary fuel?

i have a tfsi at the moment. i get 19 to 23 mpg.

a Diesel Octavia will defo be more economical.

the problem is i dont drive that often. but when i do its a trip to my Mums (70 mile round trip), Dads (400 mile round trip) or Nans (150 Mile round trip which recently cost me £50 to do at 33 MPG). its bound to be more economical that what i do now.

I've got a CR170 DSG and on my usual run to Essex I get mid to high 40's sitting at an average speed of 80.

So yes better than the 33 but only by 10 mpg.

I bought my based on doing big miles but shortly after work and life changed so it's only got 23k on the clock and just under 3 years old. I think I've only put 4k on it this year.

No issues with DPF though.

Your mileage sounds very much like mine so I as stated should be any issues with the DPF.

It may seem like a lot of money in fuel but its nothing compared with the cost of changing car. If you enjoy driving your tuned Cupra *shudder* why compromise? And have you tried running yours on ordinary fuel?

because its a 57 plate an it costs me an arm and a leg. Tax is £250 a year insurance is more due to tuned. i realistically get 260 miles to a tank of petrol when im potting around norwich and best i have seen on a run is 360 miles to a tank that costs me £80 to fill up :( it doesnt like ordinary fuel although i admit this might be a placebo.

I've got a CR170 DSG and on my usual run to Essex I get mid to high 40's sitting at an average speed of 80. So yes better than the 33 but only by 10 mpg. I bought my based on doing big miles but shortly after work and life changed so it's only got 23k on the clock and just under 3 years old. I think I've only put 4k on it this year. No issues with DPF though. Your mileage sounds very much like mine so I as stated should be any issues with the DPF.

M12MKD cheers this is what i wanted to hear. shocked at lower MPG. relistically what are we talking City and Motorway??

Not really a MPG thread, but for me I was changing from an old (i.e. less efficient 2.5L petrol) doing 20K a year so diesel was an obvious choice as I was changing anyway. I get about 50MPG for 90% motorway journeys (70-80 cruise)

20k@50MPG for CR = 400Gallons = approx £2700/year

20k@32MPG for petrol = 625Gallons = approx £4225/year

so saving around £1500/year. However the CR was something like £1200-£1500 more (can't remember now), so starts paying back after a year, at only 4k/year going to be more like 5years before it starts paying back.

Obviously for a 2nd hand car the purchase cost of a diesel vs petrol will be smaller, but the diesels do hold their value better.

Just a back of the envelope calculation, but justifies it for me!

To answer the original question, the CR first appeared on 58-registered vRS models, so would be an MY09 you're looking for.

Be very careful though if you're looking around this age though, as there will be some overlap. There's a thread on here that contains a comparison under-bonnet photo, to show you what to look for.

cheers Wardy im looking 2009 oldest more than likely a 2010 DSG Diesel

Image of the CR engine bay here:

http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/237262-potential-new-owner-–-is-this-car-a-pd-or-a-cr

So make sure it looks the same, also note dipstick location as that's an obvious difference too. If it's a 2010 it's highly likely it'll be a facelift (FL) unless they've forgotten to register some! It does happen

M12MKD cheers this is what i wanted to hear. shocked at lower MPG. relistically what are we talking City and Motorway??

No problems, don't get me wrong I love the octavia its good on fuel just maybe not what you'd expect.

Check my sig for the fuelly reading that's the average for this year so far.

That motorway, town work and a few trackdays.

Without going into my account I think the best I've returned is 58 and the worse 38 (2 track days on same tank).

the worst you got is 38 with 2 track days??? haha i drove mine in vein and got 17 so i defo need diesel power in my life.

should of kept my mk4 Ibiza Cupra TDI 1.9 was a beauty but i wanted pertrol for some reason

We had a Leon FR tfsi '57 plate which on a mix of driving averaged 29 mpg and swapped it for an Octavia VRS CR and the average on a similar mix is 49 mpg. However on a recent trip from North Yorkshire to Essex along the A1 and A14 at a constant 70 it achieved 58. What was more worrying with the Leon was the Oil consumption (a known problem with the tfsi) which was as much as a litre per 750 miles and it didn't like the cheap stuff! The Octavia on the other hand hasn't used any in two years and 18000 miles.

I have a june 2008 vrs diesel and mines has a cr engine in it. i think you can still get the pd engine till about november 2008, i could be wrong there.

We've got late 2010 4x4s with pd engines in at work, I think the only way to definitely know is to drive it or pop the bonnet

We've got late 2010 4x4s with pd engines in at work, I think the only way to definitely know is to drive it or pop the bonnet

4x4 is another matter entirely, as it's a different engine.

Don't trust the adverts, even those from Skoda themselves, as it would seem most dealers aren't even able to tell the difference between the PD and CR...

cheers for the update guys much appreciated.

basically oil filler is further back, slanted slats on engine cover and dipstick no part of cover... i think i can remember that.

lets see what the weekend brings as im popping to the liocal skoda dealer for a test drive too see if i like it

Yep, that's it. As said, dipstick is one of the easiest visual aids, as it looks quite a bit different on the CR.

But just print out the above image and take that with you for checking purposes

print... hehe. modern age mobile device ... print is something my dad would say :p

Alright, alright you can do it that way too!

You're talking to an IT Systems man here, so I'm comfortable with either method

CR definitely cleaner then

By the way my TDI 2.0 CR 140 does 60mpg average :sun: and sneaks in at 129 g/km