As we all know hammerite have stopped producing the smooth green paint we used to mimic the skoda caliper paint. I was trawling about trying to find an alternative - Superskoda list a skoda green caliper paint but cancelled my order presumably due to being out of stock. It's hard to be sure given they are Czech...

Anyway I found an old post with someone saying that Skoda told them the colour was pantone reference 348 "traffic green". From the best I can tell the equivalent/closest RAL code for it is 6024. After a look around it appears that rustoleum make a "hard hat" paint in ral 6024 traffic green http://www.colglo.co.uk/product.php?product=RU9901262

Seems similar to hammerite spray-on. Has heat resistance up to 100 deg but then hammerite don't advertise heat resistance of their smooth metal paint at all. However most people's calipers won't get that hot often unless they push them hard a lot. Could also be applied on top of a high temp base?

Anyone got any thoughts on this? I need to do my calipers so might just give it a go. Seems like the best option off the shelf.

100 degrees C is the boiling temp of water,

But brake fluid is rated to boil at much hotter temps

than that so I reckon they must easily get hotter than 100

even in normal use. The forces generated by brakes are tremendous

and it's all turned to heat ultimately.

Indeed, I understand that calipers can get up to 100 degrees and higher but the paint won't necessarily break down. However, hammerite isn't rated for heat resistance at all but lasts for years on calipers. Indeed I've read a few forum posts about people using normal rustoleum and having no issues. I'd expect that this stuff will have a little leeway in that figure. It's unlikely to just flake off at 101 deg.

If you were planning on tracking the car and using the brakes hard then I can see them being over 100 deg consistently and heat being a problem. Not if you are using it for normal driving. I've felt my calipers after a reasonably spirited drive and they were hot but not 100 deg. The discs are another story. Bear in mind the heat that gets to the caliper body has to transfer through the pad and piston where a lot of heat is drawn into the fluid. I might get some and test it in an oven at work to see how it holds up under temperature. Only 7 quid for a can and there are no other options if you want to get the OEM colour.

^ tend to agree with grr666, as high/sufficient heat resistance would constitute more than 100 deg !

Don't get me wrong, I used hammerite on mine and as you say

they don't claim any heat resistant abilities and that was fine and withstood

brakedust and cleaned up lovely. But that was more by luck than good judgement.

What worries me is that they have tested it and after 100 degrees it

then deteriorates, if it could take 150 degrees then they'd claim that.

As said, I understand that it isn't rated for high temperature use but the experience of many people using non high temperature paints like hammerite, and ini some cases simply normal autobody paint with absolutely no problem surely tells us something doesn't it? Obviously a dedicated caliper paint would be ideal and probably more durable but there isn't one. The OE skoda paint was crap anyway. My intention was simply to offer an alternative to the hammerite which is not available anymore in the exact colour match.

It would be good if a paint manufacturer were to grab hold of this gap in

the market and develop a properly heat proof variant in the right shade

of green. They would make a killing... And for what it' s worth I wasn't taking issue

with the OP. If I had a set to paint now I'd certainly give it a try.

Just as a follow-up, I've been doing a bit of digging: Hammerite has a temperature rating of 80 deg continuous and 150 deg intermittent. Unfortunately Rustoleum don't specify whether their 100 deg rating is constant or intermittent. However, I've found a lot of posts from corvette and lotus forums in the states which have people using standard rustoleum paint for calipers and it lasting well. I'd assume the average lotus or corvette driver gets their brakes pretty hot. I suppose the proof of the pudding would be in the eating though... I hope Superskoda do get back to me about their Skoda green brake paint though. Was gutted when they cancelled my order and refunded payment without any reasons. I'll probably order some of this stuff anyway, can use it for other things on the car like the RARB and the (currently red) seat sport strut brace.

Most paints specify or exceed the following temperatures, but they are only there to meet various standards (flamability, etc). Many manufacturers also produce high temperature paints, so are deliberately vague about the real temps the standard range will tolerate.

Someone did a test with Hammerite and it only started to soften at 160°C.

They are...

Continuous - 175°F (79.4°C)

Intermittent 1 - 200°F (93.3°C)

Intermittent 2 - 300°F (148.9°C)

Most paints specify or exceed the following temperatures, but they are only there to meet various standards (flamability, etc). Many manufacturers also produce high temperature paints, so are deliberately vague about the real temps the standard range will tolerate.

Someone did a test with Hammerite and it only started to soften at 160°C.

They are...

Continuous - 175°F (79.4°C)

Intermittent 1 - 200°F (93.3°C)

Intermittent 2 - 300°F (148.9°C)

Interesting to know. I've actually been using the colour conversion and comparison tools on perbang http://www.perbang.dk/rgb/008542/ for the pantone ref colour and while ral 6024 (traffic green available in the rustoleum) is the closest match in the ral range, it is only a 94% match. By comparison it is slightly less vibrant than the skoda pantone colour. There is a colour from the BS 381 range - no262 bold green which is a 96% match but again it isn't quite as vibrant. I've also found a few specialist paint suppliers including http://www.paints4trade.co.uk/ and some vintage machine enamel suppliers who will mix heat resistant paints to match RAL, BS4800 and BS381 colour ranges... BUT NOONE WHO MIXES TO PANTONE!!!

I might give them a ring on monday and see if they can tweak their mixes to get it more similar. When they are aware that so many people seem to need it for Skodas maybe they would do a little batch?

So at the moment the best bet seems to be the heat resistant paint from paints4trade mixed to the closest RAL or BS colour... Hope this helps some people.

Oh, and I went back to the paypal refund/cancellation notice from Superskoda when I tried to order the proper caliper paint from them... just realised there was a note saying they couldn't send it because an aerosol can't go via airmail. Have emailed them again to ask if there is any way it can go via surface mail... this would be the perfect solution. Will keep you all updated and if anyone else is looking for the paint let me know. When I find a supplier maybe we could get a group buy sorted to cut postage etc.

Superskoda list a skoda green caliper paint but cancelled my order presumably due to being out of stock. It's hard to be sure given they are Czech...

I email SuperSkoda about this paint and said their will not said via airmail but will said via GLS ground only.

Just like pyrotechnics (AirBags) never come via AirMail!

I spoke to motipdupli who make the paint, says is Brake paint which has high boiling point.

Edited 18 November, 201213 yr by PHF

I spoke to motipdupli who make the paint, says is Brake paint which has high boiling point.

I guess it's this stuff we are talking about.

http://www.superskod...-Skoda-RS-GREEN

When you spoke to them, did you ask if there was any suppliers of that stuff in the UK?

BTW, Welcome to Briskoda.

There is a company in Enfield north London who are going to mix me some Pantone. Will post up the results.

I emailed to see if they would send via surface mail but got no reply? if you order some let me know. its easy to get the paint as 2 pack the same as spray shops use, it's just hard to find in a spray can and with high temp resistance.

If you contact a specialist coatings company such as Trimite, others are available. Who offer heat resistant paints and coatings for the industrial markets I am sure you will find your green or red paint, so as you can ask for the colour exactly might I suggest you use a Pantone reference number? Pantone 348 for green and possibly Pantone 485 for red callipers?

Follow this link and type numbers in the box to see the colours change until you see what you are looking for. http://www.pantone.c...olorfinder.aspx

Trimite http://www.trimite.com/paints/

Edited 18 November, 201213 yr by James I

Specialist coatings companies usually want you to buy litres before they will mix to a pantone ref. They won't readily just make up an aerosol can or two. The colour ref for green is in the first post.

Trimite will direct you to a stockist who will have the colour you want or close to it.

I am not familiar with ral colour codes and it also says 348 in the first post that is pantone.

Hope the OP gets his paint