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Hill Hold Control, is it adjustable?

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Hi folks.

Hope this is the right section to ask....

My wife has just bought a new Roomster 1.2 turbo with DSG7, and I am having some learning difficulties in driving it.

This HHC,according to the owner's manual, seems to keep the brakes applied for two seconds after I get my foot off the brakes, if the car is pointing up hill.

So, when I stop at an up hill set of traffic lights, I hold my left foot on the brake pedal, lights change, left foot off brake, right foot onto throttle, engine seems to "fight" the brakes, so I tend to push more throttle on, then, all of a sudden, off the thing goes like a rocket.

Is this two second delay in releasing the brakes adjustable, or am I doing something wrong?

regards,CrazyCam

I thing you might find that the problem is the DSG gearbox.........this has problems where it holds the car still just a bit too long when you want to make a fast exit going up a slope......all DSG boxes have this problem................which is why i won't get one............

just look for dsg problems in the mkii Fabia section...more info there......

Could also be you are just getting used to the car. Rather than pushing hard on the accelerator a gentle approach might be better. You can also keep the handbrake on and take you foot off the foot brake, you will then feel when the car is trying to move forward, at this point foot on the accelerator and handbrake off will also mean you don't roll backwards.

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Could also be you are just getting used to the car. Rather than pushing hard on the accelerator a gentle approach might be better. You can also keep the handbrake on and take you foot off the foot brake, you will then feel when the car is trying to move forward, at this point foot on the accelerator and handbrake off will also mean you don't roll backwards.

Oh, yes, of course I am just getting used to the car, and this is the first DSG type car I have driven.

I'm much more used to torque converter type autos.

I suppose the handbrake business will work, but it seems like going back to the old days of driving a manual tranny car.

Sydney traffic can be quite <cough> aggressive, and sitting at a green light, with the brakes on for two seconds after you have removed your foot from the pedal does tend to make you push harder on the accelerator than you'd normally do.

regards,CrazyCam

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I thing you might find that the problem is the DSG gearbox.........this has problems where it holds the car still just a bit too long when you want to make a fast exit going up a slope......all DSG boxes have this problem................which is why i won't get one............

just look for dsg problems in the mkii Fabia section...more info there......

Thanks, I'll have a look, but I'm sure it is the brakes being held on for two seconds that is my problem.

I didn't expect the DSG box to be great for standing starts anyway, although I must admit that, once going, it is an absolute gem of a transmission, smooth and quick on the shifts.

BTW, where aboots are you? My parents used to live in Whitehills.

regards,CrazyCam

There are masses of threads on the web from all countries re the problems with the 6 & 7 speed DSG boxes.............The brakes are being held because of the ECU and the DSG box...........

http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?t=90603

http://www.autoevolution.com/news/faulty-volkswagen-dsg-gearboxes-reported-in-europe-46766.html

Defo read the first post and the the first reply in this link as it talks about the hill hold control........

http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/185404-dsg-bad-points/

Whitehills???.....where's that???...............I'm east of Inverness

Is this two second delay in releasing the brakes adjustable, or am I doing something wrong?

regards,CrazyCam

Driving DSG for any length of time teaches the art of gentle throttle control. The days of giving it a lump of throttle and easing out the clutch are gone...

The hill hold releases after 2 seconds or as soon as it detects any torque being applied to the braked wheels - whichever comes first. You just need to be more gentle on the throttle.

I soon found that during slow manoeuvering I really missed not being able to control the car with the clutch. My neanderthal dabs on the throttle had the car lurching about to within an inch of walls and other vehicles. Soon learned not to touch the throttle - just ease your foot off the brake in D or R and the DSG will trickle you backwards and forwards. On a slope just a feather tickle on the pedal is plenty.

Problem I have (and others too) is reversing/driving gently up a steep slope - my drive for example! I need to emerge very slowly - it is often completely blind due to parked cars and I have to rely on others seeing me emerging and giving way. If I don't give it enough throttle the clutch disengages and I start to rolling back down the hill. I have learnt to stop and start again - dabbing the throttle sends it lurching out like a scalded cat.

You soon get the hang of it

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Driving DSG for any length of time teaches the art of gentle throttle control. The days of giving it a lump of throttle and easing out the clutch are gone...

The hill hold releases after 2 seconds or as soon as it detects any torque being applied to the braked wheels - whichever comes first. You just need to be more gentle on the throttle.

You soon get the hang of it

Aye, it seems, from today's practice, that I wasn't applying enough torque to the drive wheels to persuade the brakes to let go, I was actually being too gentle.We`are coming at this problem from two opposite directions.I've been driving slushbox autos for over 25 years, and, as a matter of course, used both feet, left for brake, right for accelerator. Only on trips to Europe do I drive manual cars, and then, usually, the wrong way round.It does seem that the DSG setup doesn't really like two foot driving.... but I am getting the hang of it.... I hope. :-)regards,CrazyCam

Stick with it and I'm sure you will grow to love it. I definitely recommend using only one foot - I'm sure that will help to resolve your issues.

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