Yet again Toyota are recalling their cars! 2.7 millions vehicles :-0 steering apparently

Yet again Toyota are recalling their cars! 2.7 millions vehicles :-0 steering apparently

I wouldnt hold it against them.

In fact they should be praised for holding their hands up to a potential safety issue. Other manufactures do all they can sometimes to avoid recalls purely to avoid any bad press. I know which manufacturer i would trust more.

Vag? Yeah it's good they've put there hands up although 2-7 million may have been difficult to hide

No good for reputation though. They've had 2 (?) large recalls recently.

Unless other manufacturers are held up for being irresponsible for not recalling, Toyota will just look bad.

I'd still buy one. GT86 is looking likely for my next car

I'd still buy one. GT86 is looking likely for my next car

Martyn the gt86 is apparently awesome one of the best sports cars on the market today, the Subaru brz is basically the same car and both are superb and at just £25k 1998cc, Flat four, 200bhp, 151lb ft, c160g/km, c42mpg, c6.8secs, c145mph, 1220kg

Yet again Toyota are recalling their cars! 2.7 millions vehicles :-0 steering apparently

When you turned the wheel to the left the car turned right and Visa Versa :yes:

When you turned the wheel to the left the car turned right and Visa Versa :yes:

Ideal for people who don't know how to get out of skid

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Toyota GT86's, now just on Autotrader, used ones with an Asking Price of £23,000,

14 BRZ's currently on there with the lowest Asking Price at £25,000.

Apparently lots of great views and thoughts about the GT86,

it will be interesting to hear from actual owners of them that live with them,

rather than car testers, journalists and those that borrow them for a shotty & not spend their own money buying them.

Waiting with interest to see what the price of nearly new ones gets down to by the time they are 6 months old.

Future Classic or will Toyota & Toyota Dealers have to discount them to shift new ones.

I can not imagine there ever being a shortage of them & being worth investing in, probably just end up being another readily available Toyota.

Obviously only if enough people actually buy them new in the first place.

george

Maybe VW group should follow Toyotas example and be a bit more pro active about dealing with the shortcomings of their products.

No good for reputation though. They've had 2 (?) large recalls recently.

Unless other manufacturers are held up for being irresponsible for not recalling, Toyota will just look bad.

I dont agree. Everyone makes mistakes. They didnt intentionally make this aspect of the car wrong in the first place and as soon as it was discovered they are doing the right and honest thing. I personally dont think any less of Toyota for doing this i would be happy to own one knowing full well that the manufacturer will rectify any safety faults as soon as they discover them. Its all about continula improvement.

look at Audi and the TT. Cars were flying off the road and crashing and they desperately tried to deny any issues untill they were pretty much forced to admit responsibility and recall them to fit the small rear spoiler.

No manufacturer makes cars right first time but one that quickly recognises their shortcomings and publically rectifies them is a trustworthy manufacturer in my book.

But the other side of that coin is why wasn't the fault diagnosed by QC before release.

But the other side of that coin is why wasn't the fault diagnosed by QC before release.

This is a fact of life in every industry. QC cant pick up everything otherwise nothing would ever fail or break. Nearly impossible. There are literally thousands of components in a car. Something may well only develop a fault after a period of time. I really dont think Toyota can be criticised too heavily for this. Quick diagnosis resulting in a recall is preferable to the long drawn out blame avoidance tactics of some car manufacturers. Toyota should be applauded for openly and publicaly announcing these recalls and any other car manufacturer who looks down on them for this are just hypocrits as all car makers have recalls but many try very hard to hide this fact.

In customer service terms, I remember being told that you could get away with a 5% failure rate as long as when something went wrong, you did the right thing and made sure they felt like they had gained from the mistake. For example, sorry sir, we'll replace it with the next model up etc.

You can have a 99.9% ok rate, but if you treat the 0.1% like **** you've got a big problem coming your way.

This is a fact of life in every industry. QC cant pick up everything otherwise nothing would ever fail or break. Nearly impossible. There are literally thousands of components in a car. Something may well only develop a fault after a period of time. I really dont think Toyota can be criticised too heavily for this. Quick diagnosis resulting in a recall is preferable to the long drawn out blame avoidance tactics of some car manufacturers. Toyota should be applauded for openly and publicaly announcing these recalls and any other car manufacturer who looks down on them for this are just hypocrits as all car makers have recalls but many try very hard to hide this fact.

That's not fair, they have TSBs which are not recalls

Edited 16 November, 201213 yr by cheezemonkhai

In customer service terms, I remember being told that you could get away with a 5% failure rate as long as when something went wrong, you did the right thing and made sure they felt like they had gained from the mistake. For example, sorry sir, we'll replace it with the next model up etc.

You can have a 99.9% ok rate, but if you treat the 0.1% like **** you've got a big problem coming your way.

That's not fair, they have TSBs which are not recalls

Good point. I wonder when a TSB would suffice and at what point a recall is warranted? There must be a definition of when a TSB is not adequate as rectifying all you cars faults under TSB's certainly doesnt hit the headlines the same.

Tenuously related. One of the girls at work is married to a Toyota sales manager and they're struggling and the sales guys themselves don't rate the product.

Toyota's selling point used to be reliability and solidity, without that they're just very ordinary cars that cost more than the ordinary competition.

They're not that cheap, not particularly economical, not very innovative, not that attractive and if they're not especially reliable what is there to sell them?

I saw a GT86 on the road the other day and IMHO it might be a great drivers car but it didn't have much street presence. I doubt anyone who isn't a petrolhead could tell the difference between it and a Hyundai Coupe.

I saw a GT86 on the road the other day and IMHO it might be a great drivers car but it didn't have much street presence. I doubt anyone who isn't a petrolhead could tell the difference between it and a Hyundai Coupe.

That would never bother me. I'm not interested in non-petrolheads opinions on cars. Most of them choose based on colour anyway.

Had a quick search and Litchfield aready have basic tuning kits out to free up some more power and tweak a few things. No supercharger yet though

I wouldnt hold it against them.

In fact they should be praised for holding their hands up to a potential safety issue. Other manufactures do all they can sometimes to avoid recalls purely to avoid any bad press. I know which manufacturer i would trust more.

Good point, remember how long it took Renault to recall the Clio with the bonnets that kept popping up.