Hello,

I dont get it - the last car i bought an induction kit was an astra gsi bout 10 years ago - only cost £45 - now anything decent is well over £100..... some are £250......

is it worth it?

You're assuming £45 bought something decent back then. Induction kits only really make decent measurable gains on turbo charged engines and there was less of those about back then. Now the gains are more attainable manufacturers have invested in R&D to develop their products to maximise those gains to give competitive advantage. More R&D and a product proving to perform better than others means higher selling price.

Doesnt stick with me.... the technology hasnt changed that much, im sure there will be r&d costs but £250 for an induction kit..... id love to go in a car with one in before i would even consider it...

It's a pipe with a cone filter on the end.

It's a bleeding rip off, especially since you'll be paying them for cleaning kits and new cone filters.

If you think they're expensive then don't buy one. Simples.

Do these actualy improve performance on a mk2 vrs tdi ? And what tgey like in the winter ?

this is england if we think something expensive we moan about it..... lol

You answered your own question. 10 years ago.

Times change, my old paxo vts it was cheap as chips, now days for the octavia its the same price for a panel filter.

My forge FMIC for the fabia was £480 when I bought it new 8 years ago, now its over £700! Why would that change the r&d has been done, is really the price of metal used gone up that much?

Or is it because like mugs they know we will pay it?

Well you look at the k&n kits.. They have barely changed, must be just a price hike....

I've been lucky in the past as every car I've owned has had one already fitted

All they are is for noise. If you want them to do anything you need to map the ecu with the new filter as the air/fuel mixture changes.

I expect they are pricey as nowadays engines make the R&D very expensive.

My current civic would have a pretty basic pipe and filter layout but any civic newer (2001>) has a much more complicated design. It will be the same for all modern engines

It's a pipe with a cone filter on the end.

It's a bleeding rip off, especially since you'll be paying them for cleaning kits and new cone filters.

Very true but there is the R&D as mentioned. For example some brands used to mount the maf just off centre from the middle of the pipe which threw fuel trims off. Some brands used the wrong size and tube which lost power etc etc.

I've got a Dbilas (439 euro new) but my map doesn't like it so I'll be going back to stock.

I agree they are a total rip off!

Huge margin on them, oh well 10 years ago I wouldn't think twice spending any money on car related stuff but I guess your priorities change...

Ill keep looking on eBay

Had one on the type r and it was awesome. It sat pretty low down to stop getting too much heat soak from the engine bay. Was a major design flaw because every time it rained heavily it got bloody soaking wet and the car wouldn't vtec.

Took it off after that and sold it!