1. Is it okay to wash and then add an LSP (AGEGP or Collinite 845) missing out the polishing stage?

2. I understand that you should't put a wax (845) on top of a sealant (AGEGP), so, on a car that has had EGP applied, how long should I wait before I can safely apply 845?

3. Does 845 have a `shelf life`?

Many thanks.

Mike.

No problem at all..I did this on mine on Friday

I dont use EGP..It really isnt needed with Collinite

Just wash, dry and apply 845..buff off

No problem at all..I did this on mine on Friday

I dont use EGP..It really isnt needed with Collinite

Just wash, dry and apply 845..buff off

Thanks again, Chris.

I'll assume 845 does not have a shelf life.

Regards.

Mike.

It'll last and last...Make sure you shake it well ..Its thixotropic

As above and also EGP is fine straight before wax.

If applying Collinite over AGEGP..You will need to leave it 24 hours+ to cure or the Collinite will remove it

It'll last and last...Make sure you shake it well ..Its thixotropic

I shook and shook my bottle and it didn't move (My wrist action is pretty good i have had practice ). I guess it will be easier when there is less in it but i found the consistency rather to thick to shake so i put a knife in and gave it a stir. I even warmed it up in the kitchen to try and improve the viscosity had little or no effect. Went on a treat though very suprised how well it applied given the look of it in the bottle. I washed my cars again with AG shampoo this week and the wax is still there doing its job water beeding up nicely. Im so glad i took the time to wax the black neptune alloys just a quick spray with the hose was enough to get all the grime off.

I shook and shook my bottle and it didn't move (My wrist action is pretty good i have had practice ). I guess it will be easier when there is less in it but i found the consistency rather to thick to shake so i put a knife in and gave it a stir. I even warmed it up in the kitchen to try and improve the viscosity had little or no effect. Went on a treat though very suprised how well it applied given the look of it in the bottle. I washed my cars again with AG shampoo this week and the wax is still there doing its job water beeding up nicely. Im so glad i took the time to wax the black neptune alloys just a quick spray with the hose was enough to get all the grime off.

You will notice on the bottle it says that the surface (presumably that means the CAR surface) should be lukewarm to the touch. Chris (who is extremely knowledgeable in these matters) has told me not to worry about that. Can I ask...you say that it went on a treat recently, so was your car surface cold?

Many thanks.

Mike.

It will apply and buff down to around 4C..but warmer is easier for it

Keep the bottle inside this weather..as with all your waxes

You will notice on the bottle it says that the surface (presumably that means the CAR surface) should be lukewarm to the touch. Chris (who is extremely knowledgeable in these matters) has told me not to worry about that. Can I ask...you say that it went on a treat recently, so was your car surface cold?

Yeah i wouldn't worry to much about the temperature. Both last weekend and this weekend were great for washing the cars dry and sunny for me. however the temperature barely got above 10 degrees so the car body was cold and last week covered in ice. However after a good hot shampoo and some buffing of the surface with microfibre cloth i managed to get some residual heat so that the paint wasn't freezing to the touch however i wouldnt say it was anywhere near luke warm. The collonite went on the easiest out of all the products i put on. No elbow greece required just smooth consisten linear passes with the Applicator pad. I put a bit too much on due to inexperience of the product so buffing it off after clogged the coths up quickly so used about 4 cloths but the finish was like glass. If its the first time you use it then can't stress enough that you should hardly be able to see it on the paint just a very thin film the coverage is excellent so dont keep adding more to the pad like i did just keep applying until you think its gone.

Ive never clogged up a buffing cloth..What cloths were you using?

How much wax did you have on the applicator?

Ive never clogged up a buffing cloth..What cloths were you using?

How much wax did you have on the applicator?

Normal small Microfibre ones and probably way too much wax.

Get these:

http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/microfibre-cloths/eurow-shag-pile-double-density-towels/prod_436.html

Fantastic for buffing..Soooo soft

No more clogging either

I thought it was fine to wax on top of a sealant for a bit of extra depth? Or maybe your referring specifically to the products that your using?

Yes, a wax on top of a sealant is okay...but not the other way around.

I thought it was fine to wax on top of a sealant for a bit of extra depth? Or maybe your referring specifically to the products that your using?

Yes ...It is...Providing the sealer has fully cured...This time of year allow 24hours

Normal small Microfibre ones and probably way too much wax.

I can't think of a quality wax where the axiom 'less is more' doesn't apply.

It is a common failing to put too much on, when in fact all that is really required with a wax is a glaze over the already clean surface. If the surface isn't clean, you shouldn't be applying a wax!

A classic example of 'less is more' is Bilt-Hamber Auto-Balm; the number of folks on forums who complain about how hard that stuff is to buff off. yeah, because they've put too much on! The same applies with Collinite 845 (which actually strikes me as a product very closely related to Auto-Balm, just a bit more fluid.)

I can't think of a quality wax where the axiom 'less is more' doesn't apply.

It is a common failing to put too much on, when in fact all that is really required with a wax is a glaze over the already clean surface. If the surface isn't clean, you shouldn't be applying a wax!

A classic example of 'less is more' is Bilt-Hamber Auto-Balm; the number of folks on forums who complain about how hard that stuff is to buff off. yeah, because they've put too much on! The same applies with Collinite 845 (which actually strikes me as a product very closely related to Auto-Balm, just a bit more fluid.)

There is no comparison at all.

I fully agree with your comments on the amount applied (less is more)

I have never found the application and removal of 845 to be similar to Autobalm

Autobalm is best removed with a spritz of water..Collinite is a doddle in comparison and can be applied thicker than ABif youre not experienced in using it

It gets harder to remove if you leave it on too long before buffing IME

There is no comparison at all.

You don't think 845, when it goes into that sort of 'jelly' phase in the bottle, has a consistency similar to AB? I did, but I will happily bow to your detailing experience, significantly greater than mine. (and I'm being honest, not sarcastic)

You don't think 845, when it goes into that sort of 'jelly' phase in the bottle, has a consistency similar to AB? I did, but I will happily bow to your detailing experience, significantly greater than mine. (and I'm being honest, not sarcastic)

845 is thixotropic....ie..Shake the bottle very hard and it will turn very thin

I dont know how many times you've had to say that, Chris, (including to me). I really do admire your patience and dedication in keeping us on the right track. Power to ya, mate.

LOL...I'm used to it

"Pas de problem", as they say in France!!

you must have played baseball or armwrestling in a previous life. I shook the **** out of it and it just stayed there laughing at me all jelly like.

still did the business in the old waxing department though and to my amazement its still telling the rain to 'do one' and beading up nicely.

It goes liquid easier when a couple of inches have been used

I stuck it under the hot tap the first time I used it

Its a great wax to use...I'm not bothered by the durability as I apply every 3 to 4 weeks anyway

915 is more durable ...but I prefer 845

Hey guys. Just wanted some guidance or tips because I thought I had it right with my sequence of product application.. but reading back I may be making big mistakes

Got a brand new Fabia II vRS and bought a load of car cleaning products etc on top of what I already had for my old pink (but got it bright red in the end) corsa.

I start by using my karcher PW on basically a trickle setting to just bathe the car in water, then attach my snow foam lance with bilt hamber auto foam and go to work covering the car and letting it dwell for 10 mins or so.

Again go back to power lance but still on a low pressure take the rest of the snow foam residue off.

Grab for my two buckets, one with AutoGlym Shampoo Conditioner and the other water with a grit guard. do the usual one panel at a time rinse etc etc. different mitt for the wheels and arches.

When finished i use my big wooly mammoth drying towel everywhere, got a smaller MF cloth for the interior gaps, under the bonnet and boot trims.

Now that would be my weekly wash as I polished and waxed my car the first time after I first washed it 5 weeks ago. I used at the time AutoGlym Super Resin Polish and then Collinite 845.

I understand AGSRP isn't the best product and would be open to better suggestions. Also what would be classed as a sealant because I thought the polish and wax would be enough for the winter months because it does spend its time in the garage when not being driven

If there is a step to take to apply a sealant product between the polish and wax i'd be very happy to know.

Thanks for your help!