hi i know this sounds rather stupid but i have to ask ive bought a monte carlo 105 tsi petrol pick it up 29th dec and today somebody asked me what the engine size was and did it have a turbo fitted told him it was a 1.2 and couldnt answer the second question so help please what does tsi stand for thanks

It's got a turbo. It's turbo stratified injection

they dont have turbo's do they?

it appears they do, here's an article on an Octavia with the same engine

http://www.totallymotor.co.uk/new-car-reviews/skoda-octavia-hatch-se-1-2-tsi-105-bhp-test-drive

Yes anything TSi badged is turbocharged; gets a little more confusing with the vRS as that has a supercharger as well.

Im a little amused that you'd go and test and buy a car and not know that its turbocharged though, ought to be fairly obvious upon driving it.....also getting 105hp and 129lb/ft out of a 1.2 engine would be impossible without forced induction.

Edited 24 December, 201213 yr by pipsyp

How rude!!

If everyone knew as much as you!!

Happy Christmas all. a time of 'Good will to all men & women'.

&

enjoy your new car.

LOL @ ChrisRS.

Pot kettle black, once again.

george

It's not that difficult to get that power out of a small engine Suzuki did it in the 80!s getting 100 bhp out of a 1.3 and that's just std injection

There's a short film describing the workings of the Skoda 1.2TSI (yes it's a Skoda engine, despite all the VW plugs in the film )

TP

Happy Christmas all. a time of 'Good will to all men & women'.

&

enjoy your new car.

LOL @ ChrisRS.

Pot kettle black, once again.

george

:clap:

It's not that difficult to get that power out of a small engine Suzuki did it in the 80!s getting 100 bhp out of a 1.3 and that's just std injection

remeber the dhiatsu charade GTti? 900cc and 99bhp? nice I had a fiat uno turbo with a 1.3 and 140bhp! (bleed valve)

The Charade was turbo'ed though, cracking little cars for the day

I had 1200cc bikes 20 years ago with over 200hp , there were 1400cc turbo'ed engines making 400hp back in the mid 70's the power levels we see today are not impressive at all really

Many modern 600cc bikes would make more than 105hp without forced induction

Difference with a bike engine though is it would be awful in a car with such low torque and having to rev it hard all the time.

The 1.2 TSI is a cracking little engine.

An Audi A1 with one in pulled away quickly while I was cycling this morning. Sounded really nice with a lovely little turbo noise from the exhaust.

Phil

The point about modern engines like the 1.2tsi is that they take advantage of modern technology not just to produce power,but to give a blend of modest power coupled to great fuel economy.They produce the torque of a bigger normally aspirated engine (say1.6 or 1.8) whilst still proving the fuel consumption expected of a 1.2.

The point about modern engines like the 1.2tsi is that they take advantage of modern technology not just to produce power,but to give a blend of modest power coupled to great fuel economy.They produce the torque of a bigger normally aspirated engine (say1.6 or 1.8) whilst still proving the fuel consumption expected of a 1.2.

That's it.

I'm sure there are many engines of similar capacity that have produced more power/torque than this before but not with the same refinement and fuel economy.

Phil

Point i was trying to make was that a 1.2 car with that sort of power and torque output, performance, fuel economy and CO2 output forced induction must be playing a part. Small turbo engines are common place now.

Also well aware of cars like charade, R5 GT Turbo and Uno Turbo but its fair to say these cars did not have economy or emmisions in mind at all, motorbikes also rev like mad, produce little torque and require alot of maintenance, not suitable for everyday car applications

Point i was trying to make was that a 1.2 car with that sort of power and torque output, performance, fuel economy and CO2 output forced induction must be playing a part. Small turbo engines are common place now.

Also well aware of cars like charade, R5 GT Turbo and Uno Turbo but its fair to say these cars did not have economy or emmisions in mind at all, motorbikes also rev like mad, produce little torque and require alot of maintenance, not suitable for everyday car applications

I think most used to modern cars would be appalled to drive any of the "old school" turbos like the three mentioned above.

Flat under 3000 revs, so basic Corsas leave you,then a big surge of power in a narrow band that drops away quickly over 5000 revs.

The tuners apply more boost pressure to extend the rev range and power,and then it's not long before they fail.

So much for the good old days...

I think most used to modern cars would be appalled to drive any of the "old school" turbos like the three mentioned above.

Flat under 3000 revs, so basic Corsas leave you,then a big surge of power in a narrow band that drops away quickly over 5000 revs.

The tuners apply more boost pressure to extend the rev range and power,and then it's not long before they fail.

So much for the good old days...

Thanks XK140 forgot to mention most if not all the old skool turbos had power delivery like a sack of the proverbial as well as being dirty, thirsty and largely unreliable

I think most used to modern cars would be appalled to drive any of the "old school" turbos like the three mentioned above.

Flat under 3000 revs, so basic Corsas leave you,then a big surge of power in a narrow band that drops away quickly over 5000 revs.

The tuners apply more boost pressure to extend the rev range and power,and then it's not long before they fail.

So much for the good old days...

PMSL that reminds me so much what the uno was like......

you'd put your foot on the floor in 2nd gear exiting a bend, at 2,000 revs, and nothing at all would happen, you would gently roll round the bend, then all hell would let loose at 2,500 revs, and the steering wheel (no power assistance) would try to sprain your wrists as it tried to rip out out of your hands and throw you through a hedge! lol...

I loved that car

Yeah the all and nothing power delivery of older turbo cars was fun but just goes to show how much turbocharging tech has come on in the last 20 years or so.

PMSL that reminds me so much what the uno was like......

you'd put your foot on the floor in 2nd gear exiting a bend, at 2,000 revs, and nothing at all would happen, you would gently roll round the bend, then all hell would let loose at 2,500 revs, and the steering wheel (no power assistance) would try to sprain your wrists as it tried to rip out out of your hands and throw you through a hedge! lol...

I loved that car

Brings it all back..I had 3 of them

hi thanks for the answers and pipsyp ref to me not knowing by driving one on the test drive `is simples i havnt the first ride in one (a monte that is ) will be when i collect it on the 29th of dec in all the many many cars ive onwed isnt by engine size etc its soley on looks (that wow factor in all my 45 yrs driving and some 17/18 cars they have all had that wow factor ) if it looks good and i can afford it it will feel good and that still goes for me today hopefully the turbo charged monte will not let my theory down if it does it will be in the classified adds in 2013 or part xed for a bmw 1 series thanks

You'll love it, just over 2yrs ago I ordered my 1.2tsi Roomster DSG. If 6 months earlier you'd have told me I would buy a 1.2L car I would have slapped the back of your head and told you to stop being silly. I've had it nearly 17 months now and I still laugh when I floor it, it's like a daft spaniel. My other car is a Rover V8 auto and that just progresses, the little Roomie engine is fun, it whizzes (for a fugly little van).