I had the new 325i today for 2 hours. THAT is fast. Petrol ( ), 218bhp, 0-100 in 7 seconds (although I'm very sure it did it faster than that today).

I had the new 325i today for 2 hours. THAT is fast. Petrol ( ), 218bhp, 215N, 0-100 in 7 seconds flat (it felt much faster than that, and it sounds like a god damn ferrari too believe it or not)....

Oh **** i double-posted, sorry

I had the new 325i today for 2 hours. THAT is fast. Petrol ( ), 218bhp, 215N, 0-100 in 7 seconds flat (it felt much faster than that, and it sounds like a god damn ferrari too believe it or not)....

Strange how you mention that car, its the first car I had a race with in the Golf, and lets just say he got a surprise !! :P

OK, I didn't beat him, but I stayed close enough that I was able to pull beside him at the next roundabout a few seconds after to see his bemused expression

Who was banging on about FWD v's RWD????

In the real world it makes no difference, just BeeEm Marketing bo**ocks!

I've had a play with a 320d.....Whupped it big style, My 1st Scalp! I was well chuffed and the guys face was a picture

Dunno about beating a 330d though........they have got a lot of grunt!!!

A lot of this 'duelling' with other cars comes down to the driver. Not in skill but in balls! How much would you risk to beat somebody? I'll race against someone but after a certain point i'll back off (normally when she starts swearing!) I've 'lost' to less powered cars and 'beaten' more powerful cars and sometimes when i've beaten someone i will actually realize it was just me racing! As for the 330 D, nuff respect, my dad had a 330 clubsport and then a 330d, and the 330d more than held its own

Can you tell me how a 328I can do a 0-60 time of 6 seconds when a 330 CI today does it in 6.6 seconds? And this is a 250bhp something car we're talking about that weighs just above 1,250kgs. For that 328 to do that time it will have to weight less than 1100kgs, and I HIGHLY doubt it does.

Firstly, a 330ci has 231 bhp and weighs 1505kg. A 328i saloon has 193bhp and weighs 1430kg. (I also had a CAI+K&N panel)

Secondly a 330ci is quoted at 6.5 seconds 0-60 whereas a 328i is quoted at 7 seconds.

Thirdly, as mentioned on this very forum, 0-60 times in the real world are not only conditions dependant but are often less than the manufacturers quoted figures. (vRS a case in point). Besides, if you read what I wrote again I said 'about' 6 seconds. The 330i might do it in 'about' 5.5

I don't tend to exagerate figures so unless you have actually driven one of these excellent machines it might be worth you looking up the information yourself, before questioning what other people write on this message board.

Whoa...somebody took offense. That's childish behaviour dude. I wasn't contradicting, I was enquiring as to how you came up with these figures based on the facts on paper. And I regularly drive these 'excellent' machines, most recently the X5, 645i, 330i and 325i. My parents own BMWs, so I'm lucky I get to drive almost every model in the range when they send their cars in for service.

I know the performance of all these cars because I've driven them numerous number of times. You have to remember the 330Ci is a coupe, it has less power than the sedan version, the 330i. The 330i is about 250bhp. If you don't believe me, look it up. That's a pretty quick car. The 325i is quick but not what I expected..kinda slow for 218bhp...still, does 0-100 (quoted) in 7 seconds.

I wasn't contradicting you pal. I said I highly doubt the performance you stated, I din't say it doesn't perform to that level.

I was a bit puzzled, so don't get all moody on me. That's what women do. I've done nothing but converse in these forums.

'a true refletion of performance is +70 mph' - I disagree.

Surely 30-50, 50-70 are true indications of performance - If you put high enough gearing in anything it'll out pull everything else eventually (within reason - I'm aware a certain degree of power/torque is required for such a feat).

'a true refletion of performance is +70 mph' - I disagree.

Surely 30-50' date=' 50-70 are true indications of performance - If you put high enough gearing in anything it'll out pull everything else eventually (within reason - I'm aware a certain degree of power/torque is required for such a feat).[/quote']

And by that token, if you put short enough gearing in, you'll pull away from anything up to x mph I'm not sure why 20mph intervals would be a true measure of performance :confused:

Chris

Whoa...somebody took offense. That's childish behaviour dude. I wasn't contradicting' date=' I was enquiring as to how you came up with these figures based on the facts on paper. And I regularly drive these 'excellent' machines, most recently the X5, 645i, 330i and 325i. My parents own BMWs, so I'm lucky I get to drive almost every model in the range when they send their cars in for service.

I know the performance of all these cars because I've driven them numerous number of times. You have to remember the 330Ci is a coupe, it has less power than the sedan version, the 330i. The 330i is about 250bhp. If you don't believe me, look it up. That's a pretty quick car. The 325i is quick but not what I expected..kinda slow for 218bhp...still, does 0-100 (quoted) in 7 seconds.

I wasn't contradicting you pal. I said I highly doubt the performance you stated, I din't say it doesn't perform to that level.

I was a bit puzzled, so don't get all moody on me. That's what women do. I've done nothing but converse in these forums.[/quote']

Appologies if you thought I was being moody. I did not realise you had access to so many BMW's and based my remarks about you looking up the correct info on the weights you quoted- which you have to admit were pretty conservative. Of course you are quite within your rights to doubt my quoted figures but if you are not ruling out that the standard manual car could do 0-60 in about 6 seconds given the right conditions then why bring it up at all?

If I was a dude, pal, child, woman (no offence) or moody, as you have described me as all five, my reply could have looked like this:

F*!":confused: :confused: F*!" F* :thumbdwn: :thumbdwn: :thumbdwn: !"

(quite enjoyed that actually......)

Instead I stated my reply as clearly as I could given your first response. So, sorry again if you thought I was offended.

By the way we were both forgetting that PS and BHP are not the same thing and the same is true of 0-60mph vs 0-100kph.

I'm prepared to leave it at that if you are and carry on enjoying this excellent forum, which is after all about Skoda

......which we both drive.....

Appologies if you thought I was being moody. I did not realise you had access to so many BMW's and based my remarks about you looking up the correct info on the weights you quoted- which you have to admit were pretty conservative. Of course you are quite within your rights to doubt my quoted figures but if you are not ruling out that the standard manual car could do 0-60 in about 6 seconds given the right conditions then why bring it up at all?

If I was a dude' date=' pal, child, woman (no offence) or moody, as you have described me as all five, my reply could have looked like this:

F*!":confused: :confused: F*!" F* :thumbdwn: :thumbdwn: :thumbdwn: !"

(quite enjoyed that actually......)

Instead I stated my reply as clearly as I could given your first response. So, sorry again if you thought I was offended.

By the way we were both forgetting that PS and BHP are not the same thing and the same is true of 0-60mph vs 0-100kph.

I'm prepared to leave it at that if you are and carry on enjoying this excellent forum, which is after all about Skoda

......which we both drive.....[/quote']

I am indeed

As far as 0-60mph & 0-100kph is concerned, the difference is quite alot, about 5 kph...but with PS and BHP? The difference is so so miniscule, something like 1.5%, ESPECIALLY if the rating is below 600BHP, where would notice a difference the...if you take Fabia vRS standard rating, 130BHP = 131.8PS.

Anyways, just forget what happened. I din't mean to sound...mean..? If I did, I apologize.

Peace

[pedant mode]

0-60 mph = 96.8 kmh

Also the Fabia vRS is actually 128 bhp or 130 PS

[/pedant mode]

No, because shorter gearing means more gear changes - you need to find the balance.

what you need is 50-70 in top......now that will even things out...........

50-70 in 6th in the Furby will get it slaughtered - it is hardly on-boost at 50mph...

Basically if you want a real comparison both cars should be driven appropriately.

So the general concensus would be that a true measure of acceleration generally is +70 mph with road cars? The only reason I mentioned that was because lots of cars can be geared very closely to achieve quick acceleration times (rally cars where top speed isnt imperative but acceleration is), gearing aside I would hazzard as a guess that two equally weighted machines/aerodynamic but with different powers would see a very different outcome because one would run out of puff before the other and in a 70-100 battle the two machines could be seperated by as much as 3 seconds which when travelling at these speeds would be atleast 4-5 car lenghts?

Who was banging on about FWD v's RWD????

In the real world it makes no difference' date=' just BeeEm Marketing bo**ocks!

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Well, not strictly. The complete lack of torque steer and better traction is useful in the real world. (less wheelspin= longer tyre life too)

Makes less difference in a small engined BM though.

If you're talking about turning off the ASC and hanging the tail out, then that's a bit different It can scare the s*it out of you in the wet!

Most of the time on my drive to work, 0-30 doesn't come into play. If I accelerate hard I will have to back off anyway as there is going to be someone there...

The ease of overtaking is very important to me. FWD/RWD - well both have their own set of advantages and disadvantages. Personally, I don't care if it's FWD/RWD, both work well for day-to-day-driving. And let's face it, most of us will be doing that more than not

Who was banging on about FWD v's RWD????

In the real world it makes no difference' date=' just BeeEm Marketing bo**ocks!

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And that would be why most "racing" cars are FWD would it? :haha:

Had a bit of fun with a BMW last night, saw a young guy driving his beemer in quite a spirted way shall we say, just coming off the roundabout in front of me. On the A38 just south of worcester, fantastic quick road!!! (although 50 and 40 speed limits seem to be popping up everywhere which i always stick to, police love the roadside cafe in the one 40 limit!!!) I have to say that up to 70-80 i seemed to have the edge on him!!! Also seemed to be quicker through the twisty stuff, although that could be down to driver and road knowledge as i drive that piece of road at least twice a day. Any way i did make it past him at one of my well used passing points. Then after pulling quite a gap, had to slow down for 30 limit through village called seven stoke, must have knarked him off a bit as i don't think he was more than 6 inches from my rear bumper.

Was fantastic fun getting one over on a near 30 grand so called drivers car!! :P

Was fantastic fun getting one over on a near 30 grand so called drivers car!! :P

Any idea what BMW it was

Chris

Any idea what BMW it was

Chris

badged up as a 325ci on a 52 plate

I think driver skill must have played a part there, the 325i's aren't slow, and would see off a Furby - one mag did a roadtest of the 325i v's the 330d, to prove how far diesels have come, but the bottom line was the 325i was still quicker, and as we all know, forum members will tell you the 330d leaves the Furby like its going backwards (not that I agree with that, mind), but you wouldn't have passed it if he was driving the car to its full potential.

Saying that, I had a tussle with one in the Golf GTI, and although I didnt win, I was close enough behind to have given him a big surprise!

I, personally, wouldn't dream of "racing" anyone with my SDI.

HTH