exactly! it was on ebay starting at 169, i couldnt belive the was no other bids

Do you really think the TT Vent AKA Pikey mod is that significant?

It certainly is noticable in warm weather.

I came across a 320d the other day, at leats I think it was, it was debadged, and had a single downturned exhaust. We had both been overtaking a few things on an A road that had intermittent dual carriageway. Every time we got a dual bit I was nailing it then he followed. One bit especially, going up a hill from about 50 to 90, I was in 4th. The furby is 'tweaked', but I could not gain on him at all, pulled over and let him go by at 90 as I didn't want to go any faster. Was quite suprised when I saw what it was, thought I would have been able to pull away a bit. Unless he was remapped as well I suppose...

What is it with BMWs??

I overtook a 320CI on a dual carriageway only doing 60, then we both pulled up at some lights. I glanced down at my mileage and it was just under 600 so I thought right i'll see what it can do. I reacted quicker, made a nice change to 2nd and third by that time the overtaking lane was running out and he never got by me! Now I dont know whether or not he was trying that hard but as I was turning to the right, he slowed down and was smiling, giving me the

I came across a 320d the other day, at leats I think it was, it was debadged, and had a single downturned exhaust. We had both been overtaking a few things on an A road that had intermittent dual carriageway. Every time we got a dual bit I was nailing it then he followed. One bit especially, going up a hill from about 50 to 90, I was in 4th. The furby is 'tweaked', but I could not gain on him at all, pulled over and let him go by at 90 as I didn't want to go any faster. Was quite suprised when I saw what it was, thought I would have been able to pull away a bit. Unless he was remapped as well I suppose...

the Bmw 320d's are quick cars. with nice flexible engines 160bhp stock. with 60 in circa 8.5

the 330d is a absolute monster tho.. and even a remapped octy with mods would struggle to stay ahead at civilised speeds

330d remapped can be pushed to nearly 300 bhp IIRC.

330d remapped can be pushed to nearly 300 bhp IIRC.

they can indeed..

if only the 330cd's were a wee bit cheaper id have one :(

dont want one of the 1st gen engines in the older saloons as they were prone to turbo failure

Last 330d I tangled with lost - he wimped out before I did, I suspect

they can indeed..

if only the 330cd's were a wee bit cheaper id have one :(

That would be my ideal - 330d Sport' date=' Touring or Coupe with leather, hmmmm

Maybe one day...

Yeah, the 1st batch don't have [i']quite[/i] as much power and the 5-speed box.

Steve

Must be the way I drive! I have beaten a 330d estate down in a long road in Southport very narrow victory but a good one! It was a woman driving and yes she was trying because she me as I slowed down because we hit over 110mph on my private road

A 330d would just drive away from any Furby, leaving it for dust

As for getting the finger - no surprise as you're obviously not a responsible person for going faster than the Beemer ;)

A 330d would just drive away from any Furby' date=' leaving it for dust

As for getting the finger - no surprise as you're obviously not a responsible person for going faster than the Beemer ;)

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Well this is true! I think they are well matched unless the BM is chipped then your in trouble!

One of my friends gets to borrow his old mans BMW 328ci every now and again. I have never raced against it from the lights, but i'm sure he would win easily (190bhp and rear wheel drive!)

I have followed him on many country roads, however, and have never been far behind. He drove at exactly 30 with me behind him and then floored it parallel to the national speed limit sign...obviously midrange is the diesel forte and he didnt go anywhere

Good thing about driving in convoy with friends, you can ask them how hard they were trying...and from 30 - 60 he gave it all it had

A 330d would just drive away from any Furby' date=' leaving it for dust

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That doesn't really help explain to me how one car magazine actually managed several performance benchmarks faster in the vRS than the 330d.

The 330d may have a higher top speed, but the Furby has been timed 30-70 faster than one, FACT. So I dont see how this equates to it "leaving the Furby for dust"?

The car used in the autocar magazine was remapped, as for a standard Furby vRS beating a 330d, stop it, it's getting like the saxosportsclub/cliosport in here where people actually believe they can outrun those sorts of cars.

I do agree that a remapped vRS would get "close" to a 330d and may even match it to an extent but a standard one, no chance, IIRC my brothers Clio 172 pulled 6 car lenghts on me to a 100 on my private track before my car was remapped and that is only the same speed as a 330d.

stugolf, they are not well matched in the slightest, look at the stats and make your own mind up.

Fabia vRS

CC 1896

Max Power bhp [kw]/rpm 130 [96] /4000

Max Torque lb.ft[Nm]/rpm 229 [310] /1900

Performance

Max Speed mph [km/h] 128 [206]

Acceleration 0-62mph 9.5

Weight lbs/kg

Kerb Weight** 2899 [1315]

330d

Engine Size................2993cc

Engine Type...............straight 6

Gear Box....................6-speed manual

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Power........................204bhp

(rpm..........................@4000rpm)

Torque........................302lb ft

(rpm..........................@1500rpm)

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0-60..........................7.0secs

Kerb weight................1595 kg

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The car used in the autocar magazine was remapped

You have a short memory. We have discussed this before, and basically, it was not remapped. It only did 0-100 mph in 24 seconds, so how is it remapped? And if it is remapped, then how do you beat a Clio 172 that can do 0-100 in less than 18 seconds if a "remapped" Fabia can only do it in 24 seconds?

as for a standard Furby vRS beating a 330d, stop it, it's getting like the saxosportsclub/cliosport in here where people actually believe they can outrun those sorts of cars.

I distinctly remember reading a roadtest where, in a lot of benchmarks the Furby was beating it. Sorry if you dont like me pointing it out, and I'm an ex-owner, so I hardly have any alterior motive.

I think people just like putting the Furby down, but the fact is, it was at least the equal to it in most benchmarks except top speed. I dont see what your problem is with me saying this.

And I would not frequent those ****e forums you go on about anyway, so I hardly think its like those forums.

I do agree that a remapped vRS would get "close" to a 330d and may even match it to an extent but a standard one, no chance, IIRC my brothers Clio 172 pulled 6 car lenghts on me to a 100 on my private track before my car was remapped and that is only the same speed as a 330d.

A Clio 172 is faster than a 330d. And in any legal speed benchmark the Fabia IS the equal to the 330d. Maybe not above 70 mph, but these are roadcars, and those are the figures that matter. I personally believe a car magazine who has professional timing equipment and drivers above someone who "scientifically" tests on their own "private" test track with different drivers and styles.

As for the factory figures, what do they prove exactly? I have not seen a car yet that gets dead on factory figures when properly roadtested. Dont you think that gearing could play a part in the Fabia's good performance in normal benchmarks compared to the beemer?

I've never tried to say the Fabia is a better car, but some of you think you know it all, and really, you know bugger all!!

One of my friends gets to borrow his old mans BMW 328ci every now and again. I have never raced against it from the lights' date=' but i'm sure he would win easily (190bhp and rear wheel drive!)

I have followed him on many country roads, however, and have never been far behind. He drove at exactly 30 with me behind him and then floored it parallel to the national speed limit sign...obviously midrange is the diesel forte and he didnt go anywhere

Good thing about driving in convoy with friends, you can ask them how hard they were trying...and from 30 - 60 he gave it all it had [/quote']

Used to have a 328i se e46 (sniff). In a standing start I guess even a remapped furby would struggle- namely because of more gear changes and Front vs rear wheel drive. BM was about 6 seconds to 60 and then change into third. this took you to 90 fourth to 115 5th to 149 ish.

In gear was a bit different though. You had to be at 3500/4000 rpm if you wanted that diesel like shove in the back otherwise it was a bit slow to pick up-but it really did not stop pulling until the red line at 6750- (and the straight six sounded fantastic). Horses for courses I guess. I would only have one as a weekend car now though. Too expensive to thrash 50 miles daily

You have a short memory. We have discussed this before, and basically, it was not remapped. It only did 0-100 mph in 24 seconds, so how is it remapped? And if it is remapped, then how do you beat a Clio 172 that can do 0-100 in less than 18 seconds if a "remapped" Fabia can only do it in 24 seconds?

Apolgies, I stand corrected on the autocar bit.

A Clio 172 is faster than a 330d. And in any legal speed benchmark the Fabia IS the equal to the 330d. Maybe not above 70 mph' date=' but these are roadcars, and those are the figures that matter. I personally believe a car magazine who has professional timing equipment and drivers above someone who "scientifically" tests on their own "private" test track with different drivers and styles.

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Even if the Furby was standard in the test, there is still a 3 second difference to 100 mph which from searching the bmw forums is around 21 seconds, "Maybe not above 70 mph, but these are roadcars" whats your point? A Fabia can stick with a 330d to 70 mph but then gets pi$$ed on? a Saxo VTR can stick with a remapped Fabia vRS with an exhaust to 70 but after then it'll die, a true refletion of performance is +70 mph when other factors come into play, most cars can be geared for 0-60/70's but after that mark is where a true test of acceleration comes in.

I've never tried to say the Fabia is a better car' date=' but some of you think you know it all, and really, you know bugger all!! [/quote']

And some people like to be facetious

P.S. Back to the good old argueing eh?

i was just saying the autocar fabia wasnt remapped, but you just agreed so i'm deleting my statement

^^

Dont know why I said the above, must of forgotten :eek:, i'm going senile and i'm only 21!

P.S. Back to the good old argueing eh?

We wouldnt have it any other way eh?

Used to have a 328i se e46 (sniff). In a standing start I guess even a remapped furby would struggle- namely because of more gear changes and Front vs rear wheel drive. BM was about 6 seconds to 60 and then change into third. this took you to 90 fourth to 115 5th to 149 ish.

In gear was a bit different though. You had to be at 3500/4000 rpm if you wanted that diesel like shove in the back otherwise it was a bit slow to pick up-but it really did not stop pulling until the red line at 6750- (and the straight six sounded fantastic). Horses for courses I guess. I would only have one as a weekend car now though. Too expensive to thrash 50 miles daily

Can you tell me how a 328I can do a 0-60 time of 6 seconds when a 330 CI today does it in 6.6 seconds? And this is a 250bhp something car we're talking about that weighs just above 1,250kgs. For that 328 to do that time it will have to weight less than 1100kgs, and I HIGHLY doubt it does.

Boys, boys, boys in your little shopping trolleys

I'll have you know that my SDI will smack all your Fabias :haha: I play with Subarus me, cos I'm that 'ard

Had a great play with one the other day, it was a MY99, I reckon it was modded too We were at it for about 35 minutes, he'd get by me, I'd get by him it was nip and tuck the whole time. I had the edge over about 110, due to aerodynamics I reckon, below that he was well nippy When I stopped he came over and had a chat and was a thoroughly nice bloke Neither of us could believe the others car was as quick as it was.

PS The speed are in KMH and it was a Justy :D

- I reckon those g-forces in the Furby might have influenced posts made

Not tried it on with a 330d for a while, but the one that drove away from me in the R100 made me think it was bl*dy quick. If the Furby can match that (and if I get a chance, I'll have a go, in 3rd ) then I'm well-impressed.

It is quite possible the 330d in question was remapped as the guy who owns it works for some contracting company who deals a lot with BMW.

For sure, the Furby is quick in 3rd gear and it will jump up to speed. I'd say when you hit 3 digit speeds you will struggle due to the bad aerodynamics though.