In another thread Brijo reminded me of the March 2011 Surrey Hills green lane Yeti expedition that a number of us enjoyed. I'd love to take part in others (preferably up North) but don't know how to find them. Is there a listing anywhere or is this forum the only way to do it?

For that matter, how does one find 'green lanes'? What are they marked as on OS maps? I'm sure the hardcore 4 x 4 boys must have maps; where can one get them? Anyone know? I'd be happy to try to organise one here on the Yorkshire Coast.

[The Surrey trip thread is here www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/192670-yeti-adventure-surrey-4x4-lane]

Trev

Graham is the resident guru on BOATs, isn't he?

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Just back from a meeting in London, and I'm taking the grandchildren on the Vale of Rheidol Railway tomorrow, so will do a Rights of Way posting sometime on Sunday.

For that matter, how does one find 'green lanes'?

What are they marked as on OS maps?

I'm sure the hardcore 4 x 4 boys must have maps; where can one get them?

Anyone know?

I'd be happy to try to organise one here on the Yorkshire Coast.

Trev

Right.

Green Lanes are a generic term for what are basically unsurfaced roads. They are still "roads" as far as the Law is concerned, so all the usual rules you have are carried over.

There are 5 levels of "Rights of Way" within England and Wales:

Footpaths. Shown on the Ordnance Survey Landranger 1:50,000 maps as ................

They have no vehicular access other than prams, pushchairs and wheel chairs. Officially even Disabled scooters cannot use them. Driving on them can result in a hefty fine, ponts and potentially the loss of your vehicle.

Restricted Byway. Shown on the Landranger maps as -.-.-.-. (but in line!)

Used to be called RUPPS, but were downgraded by the passage of the CRoW Act and then NERC Act. Now can only be used by the same people as Footpaths. No vehicular use.

Bridleways. Shown on the Landranger maps as - - - - - - - - -.

Can be used by all of the above plus horses and cycles. No vehicular use, including horse drawn..

Byways Open to All Traffic, otherwise known as BOAT's. Shown on the Landranger Maps as + - + - + - +

Does what it says, open to all.

All of the above come under the juristiction of the Local Authority Rights of Way Dept, or their equivalent in the National Parks, who keep a copy of the "Definitive Map" on which all of these RoW's are recorded. This map should be open for inspection at any reasonable time, and the more enlightened RoW Depts actually publish them on-line, for example the Lakes District and Kent. Some Councils try to be obstructive!

All of the above can be subject to temporary closure for various reasons by the publication of a Traffic Regulation Order, which must be published in the local Press and a copy posted on the start and finish and any access points to that RoW.

The fifth type of "route" is called Other Routes with Public Access, otherwise know as an ORPA.

Shown on the Landranger Map as . . . . These have vehicular access but are administered by the Highways Dept and are listed on their "List of Streets". Rarely found in Urban areas and increasingly being redesignated into the above types of RoW's.

Although all these are shown on the OS maps that cannot be used as evidence that you have a "right" to be there and you should always check with the Row Dept, however................. OS do state a disclaimer on all published maps.

On the 1:25000 Orange covered maps the designation is similar but in GREEN.

If arranging a "Green laning" trip there are various bodies that "oversee" the hobby and all have agreed a basic Code of Practice for their use. Typically this means:

no more than 5 vehicles in a convoy.

always stop or slow down for other users.

do not use a lane where you will damage it

always keep to the RoW

always carry a map.

Bodies are

GLASS http://www.glass-uk.org/

Tread Lightly http://www.treadlightly-uk.org/

LARA http://www.laragb.org/

CRAG UK http://www.crag-uk.org/

There is also a gentleman's agreement that map references of routes are NOT published on open forums, and that any photos published do not specifically state where they are taken. This is to try and stop the idiots going out and wrecking things. Lots of lanes have names and they are commonly used. Our past use of the Clearwen Dam lane is a good example of that.

For a while I was the RoW Officer for the Freelander Club and have contacts around the county so am always willing to advise on routes, but not for actually telling you where they are. If someone wants to organise anything and isn't sure then PM me the details and I will try to check. All I need is the 6 figure map references preceeded with the 2 letters of that 100k square

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Now a sticky at the top of the section as well.

Thanks for doing that Mods.

Thanks Graham for that very comprehensive answer! Not so simple then ?! :think:

I'll look at this in detail and do some homework to see if anything is possible in my part of the world, but the "no more than 5 vehicles in a convoy." sort of hampers a mass Yeti yomp.

Trev

Trev,

The max numbers can be easily overcome by running in more than one group, with (I think) at least 30 minute gap between the groups. It is what others do.

Just had a quick look at there are a few ORPA's around West Ayton but not a lot else. Other than that you need to go west. Rudland Rigg looks interesting!