What do you think?

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I really like it, hopefully this might move more users from Apple IOS to Android!

Far to big for a start, nothing hugely "WOW" 1.6ghz 8 core processor, 2gb ram needed for that bloatware.

5" screen though!

Lets be honest are you going to use that Air View and Air Gesture feature?? in real life?... i highly doubt it.

i always jump for latest Samsungs but not this time

Happy with Nexus 4 for now

The eye thing is rubbish on the s3,i wear glasses and it often turns the screen off when I'm reading something, somehow I don't think that the s4 will be much better.

I was hoping that they would of made it waterproof like the new sony

Sent from my Galaxy S3, not a Crapple!

I'm looking for a new phone but there's nothing I really want. I have my latest fix of Android with the Nexus 7. Almost got the Nexus 4 but camera isn't great. Finding myself using my phone (HTC Desire) less and less for web stuff. May just get a Nokia Lumia. Works very well as a phone, great camera with a good lens and online is fine too for most things. It's down on apps but as a phone it's good

Some of the headlining tech on the sammy is good but after a while novelty will wear out, I won't be getting rid of my iPhone

I still have a standard iPhone 4 (almost 3 years old) and it still serves its purpose for me and does everything I need, and is still fully supported by apple so I see no need to change phone at all for now.

That's my thinking too. It's still working so it will do for now. Whatever I'll get next I'll buy it outright then keep my sim only deal.

I really like it, hopefully this might move more users from Apple IOS to Android!

Why would you care about this?

If it does what you want, buy one, but what other people do or don't buy has no effect on you.

Been following the sg4 since the rumours started and will deffo be getting it as I have a ip5 now but it's just seems bland compared to the sg4

My contract ends in may, stuck on what to get now, s4 seems ok but I was more excited about the s3, swmbo gets my hand me downs and I get a new phone off her when her contract ends so I get a new phone roughly every 9 months lol

Sent from my Galaxy S3, not a Crapple!

8 core? Really? I just don't see the need beyond marketing hype.

I see it potentially weakening Andriod tbh, as the gulf between state-of-the-art and budget phones grows. If devs move to supporting the latest and greatest, what will happen to the lower end phones? At least with Apple the difference in hardware is as they decide.

I'm just about to order an Xperia Z to replace my Arc - was hoping it would be future proof, but if the core count keeps going like this then maybe not! (I'd still rather the Sony over the S4)

isn't it more like 2 quad core processors that are switched between depending on need? it's too big, looks like an S3 and is still made of plastic

I still have a standard iPhone 4 (almost 3 years old) and it still serves its purpose for me and does everything I need, and is still fully supported by apple so I see no need to change phone at all for now.

Me too. I always changed phones nearly every year up to the Iphone 4 as things moved on really quickly.

Lately though its much of a muchness and if anything the big screens are too big.

I'll wait until the nex gen stuff comes out, whenever that is

Why would you care about this?

If it does what you want, buy one, but what other people do or don't buy has no effect on you.

Possibly because more android users means more apps, of which apple still has a lot more.

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Too early to buy an S4, need to wait for at least 3 months to see what glitches come out, like the S3 suddnely dying & it turned out to be a faulty batch of components.

My S3 is more than sufficient to do me till at least after easter next year. when the S5 should be out with a better step up in tech, & hopefully will have the unbreakable flexible screen.

I'm looking for a new phone but there's nothing I really want. I have my latest fix of Android with the Nexus 7. Almost got the Nexus 4 but camera isn't great. Finding myself using my phone (HTC Desire) less and less for web stuff. May just get a Nokia Lumia. Works very well as a phone, great camera with a good lens and online is fine too for most things. It's down on apps but as a phone it's good

My nexus 4 camera is pretty decent

8 core? Really? I just don't see the need beyond marketing hype.

Actually, it's a lot more complicated than that - it isn't really an eight core processor, it's two sets of quad core processors one of which is a high performance quad (Cortex A15's) and one which is a low performance quad (Cortex A7's). The Galaxy S2 and S3 both used Cortex A9 processors (two for the S2, four for the S3) and the Cortex A15 is next step on which Samsung have already implemented in the Google Nexus 10 and the Samsung Chromebook. The problem with the A15's is that while they offer high performance, their power consumption is also high which is more problematic in a mobile phone where space is much tighter. Qualcomm are having similar issues with their Krait CPU which is similar to the Cortex A15,

With their Tegra 3 SoC, Nvidia used five A9 cores - four high performance ones and one lower performance (although all cores were the same, they were manufactured on different processes) as the lower power core had to maintain compatibility, an old ARM11 core would be no good as its instruction set isn't compatible. Around the time ARM then announced the Cortex A7, a lower power processor that could be paired with a higher power processor to optimise for both performance and power efficiency which they call Big.little:

http://www.arm.com/products/processors/technologies/biglittleprocessing.php

This is exactly what Samsung have implemented and certainly one of the first main SoC vendors to do so (the Tegra 4 still uses a fifth identical core manufactured on a low power process) and if its works properly it should give the phone superb performance but without completely slaughtering the battery. That's a big if though and it's a bit concerning they haven't let the tech sites run any benchmarks.

I'll be waiting for the new Note later in the year which will likely have the same platform but with any issues ironed out. I'm not convinced of the benefits of the 1080p resolution with such a small screen given the additional GPU horsepower it's going to need but I'm pleased to see the battery is still removable, memory still expanded and the build is still plastic. I know a lot of people dislike the plastic but it's light and durable, my Note 1 is 18 months old and there isn't a mark on it (it's not kept in a case either) while many of the metal/glass phones pick up scratches very easily.

John

Edited 15 March, 201313 yr by JohnMcL7

Aaah, thanks for clearing it up.

I used looked into it briefly, saw '8 core, 2GB' and turned off.

Samsung hardware will be great if it used a good operating system... Although I will admit I do love Apple stuff - it's simply because it has the best user experience. Android is clunky. I don't think anyone can argue with that!

I've now got a S3 through work, and have to say WTF have samsung done? They've screwed with everything, hidden everything and it's fecking huge. Re-affirms my hate for their phones. HTC's Sense is so much nicer to use than touchwiz.

The only winner for me is they still have swappable batteries and memory card slots. Beyond that not interested.

Samsung hardware will be great if it used a good operating system... Although I will admit I do love Apple stuff - it's simply because it has the best user experience. Android is clunky. I don't think anyone can argue with that!

I assume you're being sarcastic with your latter comment, I don't find Android clunky at all - I find IOS very clunky and a poor user experience due to its very basic interface, its grid system was basic when it was first launched and all these years later it's very dated compared to Android and other operating systems. I'm surprised Apple haven't given it the overhaul it needs to bring it up to date particularly given increasingly powerful hardware but then I guess a lot of people are just happy with a basic system. I much preferred Maemo's approach which really took advantage of the hardware and functioned more like a mobile computer rather than a phone with tremendous flexibility and far better at handling all the different bits of data and multiple programs.

John

I've now got a S3 through work, and have to say WTF have samsung done? They've screwed with everything, hidden everything and it's fecking huge. Re-affirms my hate for their phones. HTC's Sense is so much nicer to use than touchwiz.

The only winner for me is they still have swappable batteries and memory card slots. Beyond that not interested.

Actually, it's the other way round - aside from soft keys, it's HTC that have screwed with everything as Samsung's skin is a lot closer to vanilla than Sense is. Having used both on very similar hardware I find it's more a personal preference than one being better than the other although I find Sense heavier on resources than Touchwiz.

John

Actually, it's the other way round - aside from soft keys, it's HTC that have screwed with everything as Samsung's skin is a lot closer to vanilla than Sense is. Having used both on very similar hardware I find it's more a personal preference than one being better than the other although I find Sense heavier on resources than Touchwiz.

John

Thats odd, as all the Tech reviews I've read on the S4 when comparing touchwiz and Sense say the opposite to yourself. Touchwiz being more interwoven than Sense is.

My nexus 4 camera is pretty decent

Wow. Them pictures are really good to say they were taken using a phone!