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Close to plunging in to shark stage 1 (remap only) on my vrs I've hit the search read all the threads just want more feedback. The thing I'm worried about is it just losing traction all the time when you boot it In the first 3 gears I know the map is smoother I've seen a print out next to standard looks good as far as I'm concerned just wanted some input from others as I know alot of you run the maps. Do you have to adjust driving style much or can the car handle the extra 30hp without making much fuss?

Another thing was I'm hearing mixed info about smoke and remaps in general. Mine barely smokes atall at the mo only when cold get a little bit of white smoke or steam and I don't drive hard until Warmed up but still never noticed smoke then, don't want to have black smoke coming out the back or do the shark maps generaly not change what comes out the back?

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  • I suggest that you all learn to control your addictions to putting your accelerators to the floor then wheel spin will become less of a problem!

  • when it spins in 3rd on this farm track, is there a lot of BS on the road?

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    worn tyres will make it spin up in the first 3 gears on a standard map. A greasy damp road with good tyres will make it spin up in the first 3 gears on a standard map. If you want to check if it's b

Don't really know mate I have a question for you though. I bought my Vrs 6 months ago and the car wheel spins in first 3 gears very easily. Mines supposed to be standard. Did your wheel spin a lot before the map? Cause I have done some speed tests in mine and the times match up to a video on YouTube of a fabia Vrs running a map. This leads me to believe that the previous owner of my car have mapped it. Sorry for interrupting your thread bro. I'm just trying to investigate this you see

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I've not noticed it spin atall in dry conditions really, Couldn't comment on the wet..

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You could invest in a LSD ? What tyres you using? Decent rubber will make a difference too.

My car has 380 ftlbs and I have no wheel spin problems as I use the above.

I've not noticed it spin atall in dry conditions really, Couldn't comment on the wet..
mines spins 1st and 2nd in dry but in wet first 3 gears are a nightmare.

I bought mine and mapped it at Shark. I drove it for around 5 hours, 250 miles before I reached shark and it drove wonderfully but if you're not careful it'll spin and wiggle and torque steer. I don't think it's any worse with the shark map, I'm quite aware of how to drive it as had a PD100 before which could spin slightly if you weren't careful.

Big thing I noticed was, good treaded tyres make a world of difference

I suggest that you all learn to control your addictions to putting your accelerators to the floor then wheel spin will become less of a problem!
mate I don't drive around like a nut case. Due to the weather recently the wheels having been spinning quiet a lot. Obviously I have learned to prevent it. Just beginning to think that the car has been mapped due to it characteristics. I have been comparing it to mapped fabia's and the times match. I'm going to get it plugged in to see for sure. Just doing a bit of investigation that's all.

The shark map makes the car much more drivable with minimal smoke. By far one of the best maps around.

As said if your getting wheel spin in first and second all the time you need to adjust your driving style or invest in better tires

The shark map makes the car much more drivable with minimal smoke. By far one of the best maps around.

As said if your getting wheel spin in first and second all the time you need to adjust your driving style or invest in better tires

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The shark map makes the car much more drivable with minimal smoke. By far one of the best maps around.

As said if your getting wheel spin in first and second all the time you need to adjust your driving style or invest in better tires

I'm not getting wheel spin "all the time" I merely stated that the car "can" wheel spin in the stated gears. You can't honestly believe I spin the wheels up constantly. I have been driving over 5 years. As said I just stated the wheels can spin up in those gears which leads me to believe that the car has been mapped. Please don't make it out that I constantly spin the wheels mate cause I don't ok

I haven't got a clue how you drive - but you did say it was a nightmare which would suggest you can't drive or you have really crap tyres or indeed you have an aggressive map :)

Mapped or unmapped you can spin the wheels on most cars, I can manage it in the wife's Touran.

Driving style is the key, and check your tyres are not worn

mines spins 1st and 2nd in dry but in wet first 3 gears are a nightmare.

Suggests in the wet that you can't drive properly, as stated by an earlier poster

If you have no control over wheel spin in 3rd gear you really should be taking a long, hard look at yourself

I suggest that you all learn to control your addictions to putting your accelerators to the floor then wheel spin will become less of a problem!

Have to agree and there is the simply answer whether re-mapped or not just drive sensibly with the right foot..

I don't understand why your all saying I need to change my driving style. I'm fully used to the car have had it 6 months. When I say that the wheel spin is a nightmare I mean that sometimes... not all the time mate. Obviously when pulling away in certain situations the wheels do spin but I then prevent it. Only rarely does this happen. My driving style is ok IMO I average about 50-60mpg. Never exceed speed limits on public roads due to having my son in the back 90% of the time I'm driving. All tests are done on my uncles farm ( he has a long road round the back which is his for getting to different parts of the farm). My tyres have been changed in last the 3 month and have more than enough tread in fact look brand new. Don't think there's any need to comment on my driving style when asking a question about the cars capabilities when re-mapped. I'm trying to investigate if the previous owner has mapped my car.

Best way I find to check if a pd car or diesel be it is mapped is when it runs out of puff. A nice smooth map should push a fab on boost past 4krpm.. Where as a standard fab will pretty much have nothing left at 4k it just makes a lot of noise.. Unless it has a really aggressive map on it and that will probably create tonnes of smoke and make for really notchy uncomfortable acceleration quite like a standard car but with bigger bang! :)

Suggests in the wet that you can't drive properly, as stated by an earlier poster

If you have no control over wheel spin in 3rd gear you really should be taking a long, hard look at yourself

read my post properly. I know the car can wheel spin in the wet in 3rd because obviously I have made it spin on purpose to see if the car is capable. I have been on this forum for 2 minutes and none of you are making me feel welcome at all. How about you take a hard look yourself and learn to read kid

worn tyres will make it spin up in the first 3 gears on a standard map.

A greasy damp road with good tyres will make it spin up in the first 3 gears on a standard map.

If you want to check if it's been mapped or not, get it booked onto a rolling road and see what it's producing!

The standard map has a nasty torque spike at around 1700rpm, even when using very little throttle you get a little "surge" I would describe it as.

When giving it the beans the power will come in one big lump at around 2000 rpm and then quickly dying off and then nothing at 4000 rpm.

When mapped (and if its a decent map) there will be no torque spike and the the power will be very smooth up untill 2000 rpm (this is when all hell breaks loose) and then the power will be all there up untill the red line.

I had mine on the standard map for 18 months, after I got it mapped, it really is like day and night.

**** me a sensible post for once.

worn tyres will make it spin up in the first 3 gears on a standard map.

A greasy damp road with good tyres will make it spin up in the first 3 gears on a standard map.

If you want to check if it's been mapped or not, get it booked onto a rolling road and see what it's producing!

The standard map has a nasty torque spike at around 1700rpm, even when using very little throttle you get a little "surge" I would describe it as.

When giving it the beans the power will come in one big lump at around 2000 rpm and then quickly dying off and then nothing at 4000 rpm.

When mapped (and if its a decent map) there will be no torque spike and the the power will be very smooth up untill 2000 rpm (this is when all hell breaks loose) and then the power will be all there up untill the red line.

I had mine on the standard map for 18 months, after I got it mapped, it really is like day and night.

thankyou for that mate. Your post is really helpful and thanks for sticking to question I asked instead of raging like all the other people on here

Made a difference with mine you can really tell much more drivable to have some fun with

Mine is hybrid, can launch and drive very quickly without spinning wheels in all gears without issue. If I try by unloading one of the wheels then yes, it'll spin but as said, you can do that in any car.Driving in a straight line, I think it would be hard to get 3rd to spin the wheels tbh.

Made a difference with mine you can really tell much more drivable to have some fun with
does your clutch slip or did you get a safe map?

thankyou for that mate. Your post is really helpful and thanks for sticking to question I asked instead of raging like all the other people on here

No problem! :-)

So do you get that surge???? becuase i'd say that would be a good indicator to whether it has been mapped or not?

Also, and this is by no means a dig at your driving, try and limit the amount of throttle used under 2000 rpm. Standard map or not, giving it any more the half throttle will not be good for you clutch or flywheel and especially if its on the standard map and its nasty torque spike will cause you to spin up.

just talking from past experience, I learnt alot from my first week of ownership :-p

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