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Hi all,

Just looking for a bit advice, I am thinking of trading in my mk1 fabia vrs and getting the mk2! But I'm concerned about the difference in fuel costs, I don't mind a extra 30-50 pound per month going into the tank but I don't want to buy one then find out they guzzle the juice! Can anyone shed some light for me please

Shaun

Or even posting pictures of them on long journeys or averages over a tank full.

Down long hill pictures are cheating.

They do what they, do 22- 62 MPG depending on Tyres, Weather, Road conditions, speed limits, age and mileage of engine,

oil used, map & fuel used and weigh being carried.

george

This is a going quite quick on the flat after the car has been for a roasting and is cooling down.

or One when just warmed up and on the same road.

And here I am to provide the goods Richard, :-p

Ok in all honesty this was taken after really trying to get a good mpg average.

90% motorway, 15 mile journey and no more than 65mph.

zusamuhy.jpg

In all honesty you will obviously notice the difference in fuel, ok petrol is a little cheaper but from a £50 fill up you will see around 70 less miles compared with the MK1 (I do, others may say differently)

I do miss my MK1 a little, as Richard said the MK2 is more refined and smoother so loses some of the excitement.

I don't regret changing as I LOVE my mk2. But I am just confined to calculating smiles per gallon instead now.

78.1 MPG!?!?!?

Really. No reset on the number 1 consumption button and then a quick downhill section........!?

can't imagine getting 78mpg over 111 miles no matter how I was driving! :giggle:

Real figures would probably be more useful than dash display.

My mkII Fabia VRS over estimated by about 10%. As did my mkI.

Lots of us are running them through many tanks of fuel and know exactly the routes and miles we do in a vRS or other vehicles.

Some of us do the same journeys in diesels and these can be economic or fun or both.

Down to personal choice,

some try before they buy, and some buy, sell and tell us the pit falls.

Silicon,

As i said not a Down hill coasting pic.

The car was running a RE-Map, 102 octane fuel, No rear weights or extra weight.

& had just been on a Dyno then driven fast and was just pottering along to see how it was going.

(10 miles or so covered to get the shown mpg on setting 1, not from a 111 trip set, Setting 2 was about 9mpg average i think,

it was drinking fuel at a high rate before that picture was taken,

thats 70 mph and low revs,

ie no Turbo. & its 2*oC air temp and a cold road.)

Its all relative, standard ones can do 45 MPG average for a tank full, equally 35 is normal for many..

http://www.briskoda....in-a-vrs-45-mpg

george

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Starting to question if the octy vrs would be better option

Our mk2 vrs gets about 35mpg but it does spend most of its time being driven round town stop start traffic driving,while my newly purchased mk1 vrs returns 45-50mpg on a 20mile round trip to work per day.

Real figures from our MK II, we get high 30's doing short journeys, going to Castle Combe I drove steady at 70-75 mph avoiding heavy acceleration and achieved 47mpg.

Driving home I did 80-85 and achieved 45 mpg, as with all cars the harder you hit the loud pedal the more fuel it will use, you have to work out where the cut off is against less mpg from petrol against diesel allowing for lower petrol prices too.

I'm in exactly the same line of thought as S21VRS about changing my mk1 vrs for a mk2 and was seeking similar advice, I do a lot of stop start driving

with my job covering maybe 30 > 40 miles a day including the trip to and from work.The mk1 been giving 400 miles to a tank, are people saying I will

be maybe lucky to get 330 miles out of a mk2 vrs ?

My other thoughts where on the dsg box, is it easy to drive when your hopping in and out the car 20 times an afternoon starting and stopping the engine ?.

I've thought about remaining in the diesel sector ( octy vrs, Ibiza 2.0 cr, ect ect ) but worry about dpf problems as I don't think i'll get the temperature up to the desired levels as there is not many long runs in my travels.

Any additional thoughts would be appreciated, not trying to hijack your thread S21VRS just didn't want start another one when the question was about the same subject.

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No problem mate feel free to use the thread to your advantage! I'm reading and hearing a few people saying the mk2 has lost a bit of excitement also which is a bit dissappointing

Best drive one and see about your feelings on the excitement level.

I doubt many on here that still own a MK2 vRS or are replacing with a second would agree with those you are 'reading and hearing'.

It will be good to hear your opinion once you do drive one,

hopefully you get to take one out of a town to someplace you can try it out..

http://magazine.utvdrive.co.uk/reviews/cars/skoda/fabia/3475-2012-skoda-fabia-vrs-review.htm

george

I won't be buying new either, so some of the oil / engine issues on the forum recently give a little concern, I hope to pick up a 62 plate

( budget around £14 k ) so remaining warranty will be important, can they be extended as I usually end up keeping a car 4/5 years ?.

Should I expect the Skoda main dealer to be honest and up front about any warranty issues or can I contact Skoda uk and request info

on a particular car ?

If I take a test drive, like it and see something I fancy i'll post on the forum to see if anyone recognises the car, save my blushes

and not buy a wrong un.

They should be honest,

but its always buyer beware and Skoda UK Customer services are very helpful.

(no problem if there has been a Warranty Issue and the work has been done,

that will be all on record and you know some one was paying attention.)

I would buy an Extended Warranty at the time when buying used.

http://www.briskoda....koda-dealership

george

Best drive one and see about your feelings on the excitement level.

I doubt many on here that still own a MK2 vRS or are replacing with a second would agree with those you are 'reading and hearing'.

I agree, hence I suggested a decent test drive.

Personally I found it one of the most boring cars I've ever driven, which was why I only kept mine for four days.

I'm not really a fan of flappy paddles, or linear smooth performance with little feeling of acceleration.

But that's my personal take on it, which I know is not the same as a lot of people.

Perfectly understandable that people will have different opinions and justify a car they like.

It does do well in other areas as I mentioned above.

Now back with a mk1 and much happier myself.

I think my mk2 vRS feels like a video game to drive

I think my mk2 vRS feels like a video game to drive

My brother refuses to drive it for this reason. His Swift Sport maybe nearly 50bhp down on the vRS but on twisty B roads there wouldn't be much in it. Hence me giving thought to changing. When I was on track with it I felt I needed more power, better brakes, lower suspension, etc but 90% of the time it's on the road doing dull commuting stuff and while it's a bit thirsty for that, because of the DSG it's easy. It can cover ground very quickly when needed but is a bit effortless. It does almost everything I want and I do like how it looks but is that enough? I have split my hobbies a bit lately so do have other ways of getting my fun now so I could keep it or if I have to I can sell it for something fun. Overall it's the best car I've ever owned but obviously not the best I've ever driven. Has to be a compromise somewhere.

Starting to question if the octy vrs would be better option

We have both VRSs and had a Mk1 Fabia VRS and the best Fabia or Octavia I have had from the 20 or so Fabia, Octavia, Superbs I have had was the 1.8 TSI in L&K form. Quick, 0-60 in abour 7.5 seconds, low 40s mpg, luxury.

Having been a derv dude for 12 years I spent today whistling round B roads listening to an exhaust note in my new mk2 ....heaven!

Had a few blow offs (felt like I was 18 again) and using sport to engine brake got a number of exhaust pops

Destroyed my mates Mk1 and my mates leon 1.4 tsi

48 mpg on the way back

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Cheers for the comments everyone really don't know what to do now! It's a lot of money to spend on something I'm not sure about might have a look at the octy instead

Real life driving you will get max 40 ish mpg - a lot of them struggle to get 50mpg on a motorway run.

Best I ever got was a calculated 48mpg on the tankful going to Cornwall. Took it fairly easy - something you wouldn't have to do in the mk1...

Cheers for the comments everyone really don't know what to do now! It's a lot of money to spend on something I'm not sure about might have a look at the octy instead

Which Octy are you looking at?

170 diesel?

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Yeah mate the 170 diesel 10 plate! It's a little bit bigger than what I was wanting but still a lovely car I am starting to think there are too many ifs and buts with the new fabia, I love how my mk1 pushes you back into the seat when you put your foot down and if the mk2 won't do that I would be pretty dissappointed

http://www.vrsworld.co.uk/skoda_vrs_specs.html

I really think you need to go drive one.

Even the 'Linear Power Delivery' that some speak of and do not like, can push you back in your seat.

A standard MK1 will be left in your wake when you boot a standard mk2 from say 50mph.

Some cars have more feelings of acceleration, but its actual acceleration that sometimes matters.

Do not expect an amazing 0-30 time, but you can be sure that when the DSG drops 2 or 3 gears it will move OK.

Basically it is kind of, Supercharger to 2400 rpm, then Supercharger & Turbo to 3500 rpm, then Turbo.

It can sit in 7th gear at 50mph and just doddle along if you want, but it can shift if you want.

george

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