hi all,

my new 62 plate vrs with 3k miles on clock has just today got the yellow low level oil warning light on,a big surprise to me as i expected the dealer to fill it up to the top with oil when buying new car,i phoned skoda uk who said i need to get it checked out to see if a fault or not,i phoned my local skoda repairer(5 mins from me and not my dealer 45 mins away)he said he would check it if i can arrive within 10 mins which i did,they had the car for 30 mins and said there was no oil in it to even show up on the dipstick,and they said they have filled it up to top with oil(do not know which oil used)they said any problems to bring it back as i have 5 year warranty.

so thank you rivervale (portslade)for good customer service(and steven for fitting me in at short notice)

ps;why would a dealer sell a brand new car without enough oil untill next service or 10k miles it should have been checked during pre inspection and in my new smart car i had for 3 years i did not even open the bonnet.

many thanks

Normal warranty is only 3 years, " Did you pay extra to make it up to 5 years?"

yes about £300 extra i think

To be clear, are you saying that you haven't checked the oil level for 3000 miles? Also that you expected there to be enough oil in the engine if the level was correct at delivery to last until the next service or 10000 miles, whichever comes first?

yes i just drive the car thanks

yes i just drive the car thanks

These cars use a little oil so you need to check and fill it yourself ! 3000 miles and not topped up ? Your asking for problems lol

To be clear, are you saying that you haven't checked the oil level for 3000 miles? Also that you expected there to be enough oil in the engine if the level was correct at delivery to last until the next service or 10000 miles, whichever comes first?

+1

If you look in the manual it will say something like...

'It is normal for the engine to consume oil. The oil consumption may be as much as 0.5l/1000km depending on your style of driving and the conditions under which you operate your vehicle. The oil consumption may be slightly higher than this during the first 5000 kilometres.'

thanks but do you think the car is using to much oil or dealer did not fill it up/had bare minimum oil in it.

thanks but do you think the car is using to much oil or dealer did not fill it up/had bare minimum oil in it.

IIRC, the warning light will always come on before you are down 1l (normally, it's closer to 0.75l). It's about 0.5l between the high and low marks on the dipstick.

Assuming it was correctly filled, then the car has used 333ml/1000miles or 208ml/1000km as a worse case.

hi out of interest how much oil can it have from empty to full(and how many miles can i do)average driving with a bit of sport.i was hoping not to put any oil in for at least 10k

thanks

Edited 21 May, 201313 yr by leobella

Jesus

JUst check the oil every week and top it up as required. If you cant manage that simple task then you shouldnt be on the road at all

As you can probably see from the forum loads of vRS consume horrendous amounts of oil. It's a well recognised problem with this engine. I wouldn't worry too much yet tho, oil use should hopefully calm down as you get more miles on the clock.

hi out of interest how much oil can it have from empty to full(and how many miles can i do)average driving with a bit of sport.i was hoping not to put any oil in for at least 10k

thanks

I doubt very much if you'll manage that on one of these engines tbh. Usually its 1 litre from the min to the max marker on VAG cars but I have no ownership experience of the Fabia Mk2 VRS specifically. The car would have come filled with the correct amount of oil from the factory so its safe to assume its used that during the running in process. These engines really do need checking regularly. Everytime I pop into the local dealer I hear of another thats getting replaced or someone thats buying oil for one and cant believe how quick its using it. It may well settle down soon enough. Good luck.

Jesus

JUst check the oil every week and top it up as required. If you cant manage that simple task then you shouldnt be on the road at all

Thats abit harsh! No need for that attitude when a new member signs up to the forum and asks a perfectly resonable question about a car they have no experience of.

Why should anyone who hasn't read this forum before be aware of the Oil Issues on the vRS? Its not like the dealers are falling over themselves to inform customers of it when they buy the car...

Obviously its worth new members using the 'search' function before posting if possible.

This Fabia vRS is the only car I have personally ever bought which has required me to top it up with oil at any stage. I got mine two and a half years ago and drove it normally from day 1 without checking the oil level. Orange light came on at about 4K so topped up. Came on again at about 7k so topped up again. Now on 18k and hasn't used a drop since...bingo I'm happy .

There is definitely a case for not checking the oil on this car too regularly as it can lead to "oil anxiety over-filling syndrome". People top up too often resulting in overfilling -the excess oil is burnt off and they top up again fooling themselves into thinking the car has an oil issue....

Checking the oil on the vRS is not always a "simple" process as the dipstick is woefully not fit for purpose. For example if you check the oil from cold prior to starting the engine you will get one reading, turn the engine on and straight off again then re-test and it will give you something entirely different. Drive around the block a few times park and re-dip and you'll get something totally different again! :wonder:

Not harsh at all.

I'm amazed at the amount of people who don't bother checking the oil or other menial items.

It's very easy to check once a week, could prevent problems and ultimately save a written off engine but most people are too lazy and just want to drive without a care. I'm sure they would be crying to skoda though if lack of oil caused an engine fault that could have easily been prevented.

I'm not expecting anyone to know about the oil issue on this engine however to have not checked the oil once in 3000miles on any new car, especially whilst running in is asking for trouble.

Edited 22 May, 201313 yr by rover220

I agree that checking the oil level on a new car in the running in period is a sensible thing to be doing. Also agree that those people who totally ignore basic car maintenance -checking tyre tread etc are potentially a menace. The "if you can't check you oil once a week you shouldn't be on the road at all" bit that I thought was abit OTT tbh. Modern cars should not necessarily require weekly oil checks in my opinion. The fact that the 1.4TSi in the vRS seems to promote above normal levels of worry about oil is the main downside to owning one for many people.

I think it is a bit harsh, due to manufacturing, tolerance and materials used in modern engines many never need topping up between services and many people rely on the intelligence of engine management and warning lights as an indicator they need to open the bonnet and check things

my GLII did not use a drop of oil in 18k from new to first service a couple of weeks ago

and I rarely check my oil level, but I checked it when I got it home on first day of ownership, a week or so later, then a couple of weeks then a month then only when I topped up screen wash

so I check it regular from new decreasing as I know how the engine is using oil, and basically if the bonnet is open I check oil,water and screenwash, comes down to knowing your own individual car

also the newer VRS's are supposed to have the oil issue fixed so why should owners of the newer engine models be so paranoid about oil levels,

my advise would be get a 5L (due to the amount used so far) of correct oil from dealer check every week for a few weeks until you establish rate of oil use, then adjust the frequency of checks, and make notes of when you top it up and roughly how much so you know and also have any evidence to put in front of dealer if there is an issue (many oil cans have a clear plastic bit on one side with litre marks to help estimate how much is left)

oh and make sure you check it same way each time (either always when cold, or as recommended in the book) just be consistant as oil expands when hot so if you always check it hot, then check it when cold it will look as though engine used oil

oh and make sure you check it same way each time (either always when cold, or as recommended in the book) just be consistant as oil expands when hot so if you always check it hot, then check it when cold it will look as though engine used oil

Other way round. The dipstick level is higher when cold, lower when hot.

hi out of interest how much oil can it have from empty to full(and how many miles can i do)average driving with a bit of sport.i was hoping not to put any oil in for at least 10k

thanks

You're almost at the 5000km point where oil usage will have stabilized so you need to get an idea how much oil you are using. The second 5000km tends to use less oil than the first. Measure when cold with car level.

Take a note of the odometer and where the oil level on the dipstick.

JUST FOR NOW, check every 200 miles or so. Don't put any oil in.

When you get to just above the minimum, fill it back up to the original dipstick level. Note the amount of oil you added - this is how much was used. See how many miles you did and do the sums.

Don't rely on the oil level light. When this comes on the level is already below the minimum on the dipstick. If the sensor goes faulty or is damaged, you could run the engine out of oil and this would not be covered by warranty.

|There two systems for oil level safety in the car. One is oil pressure and the other is oil level.

Checking oil level is recommended at each fill up, good practice and all that. Especially when you want to go for a "spirited drive"

Paranoia runs rife here in the oil department, I was a victim myslef .

If you follow rwbaldwin's advice you will be fine!

@rover220

ALERT! Attitude problem detected. Cool your jets partner, new user just asking for advice. I never checked oil in my Lupo for 8 years of ownership between services - simply no need to. Same for my 520d - no need to. It is perfectly reasonable to just put fuel in and drive in modern cars. However twinchargers are very specific beasts. As a pub chat info worth to know that 1.4 twincharger has higher specific output than new V8 M3 BMW motor ...

I think apologies are called for :wonder:

hi all,

thanks everyone for your help and advice,i did not know that the vrs could only take 1 litre of oil from top to bottom,i was hoping for 5 litres at a guess,my last car was a smart fourtwo which i had for three years and i did not even need to open the bonnet.i have had company cars and company vans over the last 20 years of my working life and except for water i have never needed to checked the oil or needed to put any in,i will now buy 5 litres of oil the same as what is in the boot in a case i received when buying car and do at least once a month checks on everything as i only do 6k in new vrs.

If because of the low mileage i do , if i have to put in 2litres a year it is no proplem.

I got a great car at a great price, vat off car and all extras including warranty it goes like a F1 car compared to my ex smart car and my gf loves it as she has only got a auto driving licence and only passed her test 7 months ago so had to get rear parking sensors as an extra as she has trouble reverse parking.

once again thanks everyone for your help and this is a great forum for advice for a novice who does not know alot about cars except how to drive them.

your welcome to the advise,

don't be a stranger, keep popping in now and again and let us know if you have any further issues

we do have a laugh on here as well and some good meets to find out how some of the others are and what they do to their cars to make them their own

hi all,

thanks everyone for your help and advice,i did not know that the vrs could only take 1 litre of oil from top to bottom,i was hoping for 5 litres at a guess,my last car was a smart fourtwo which i had for three years and i did not even need to open the bonnet.i have had company cars and company vans over the last 20 years of my working life and except for water i have never needed to checked the oil or needed to put any in,i will now buy 5 litres of oil the same as what is in the boot in a case i received when buying car and do at least once a month checks on everything as i only do 6k in new vrs.

If because of the low mileage i do , if i have to put in 2litres a year it is no proplem.

I got a great car at a great price, vat off car and all extras including warranty it goes like a F1 car compared to my ex smart car and my gf loves it as she has only got a auto driving licence and only passed her test 7 months ago so had to get rear parking sensors as an extra as she has trouble reverse parking.

once again thanks everyone for your help and this is a great forum for advice for a novice who does not know alot about cars except how to drive them.

gf loves it...auto driving licence...passed her test 7 months ago.....she has trouble parking...and ur worried about oil.

gf loves it...auto driving licence...passed her test 7 months ago.....she has trouble parking...and ur worried about oil.

It's called dispalcement technique - occupy yourself with a lesser problem to avoid the bigger one - just joking

thanks all.

Also as a bonus the built in satnav has a sd card slot which i have bought a top sd card and got 3000 tracks on it and it sounds alot better than ipod via mdi cable and easier.

I also think my vrs bright green with black roof and black alloys is the best colour,everyone who sees it loves it and also cannot believe how fast it goes.

Edited 23 May, 201313 yr by leobella