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3 of the 4 halogen bulbs in my kitchen have decided to blow, noticed that you can get led replacement ones but are they any good?

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We had the GU10 halogen spotlights in the hallway (up and down) when we moved into the house - about 20 or so in total. They kept dying almost regularly. In the end I bit the bullet and swapped them all for LED ones. The light output isn't really anywhere near what it was (but not pointless). Going from 20x 40w bulbs to 20x 2w LEDs has made a good dent in the bill, and none have died in the last 2 years so I fully expect them to last for an age.

If you can get over the initial hurdle of the price compared to the cheap as chips halogens then they're a great alternative.

Just check the physical dimensions. As I found not all are the same size as the original bulbs (may not matter depending on how they're fitted)

we've put Ikea's 4w LED's in my office and outside in 8x Up/Down lighters - Colour is Lovely. (£4 ea)

we've got 29 1w LED's in the new sitting room - to use as background and they look fab. (£5.50 ea inc fitting and trim - B&Q - Good value!)

we intended (and bought) 30 9w Cree Dimmable LED's for the sitting room, but the colour is not to my taste - a bit too industrial. (£100 for 30 from a local eBay'er)

Al.

The phillips 35w equiv ones are excellent and really are like a 35w bulb.

The rest I don't rate and avoid the 1/2W ones like the plague.

Look for 3W or 4W ones, and you'll get a decent light output.

They even do a 50W equiv one, but that's in the phillips mater or commercial ranges and the cost is higher.

We bought a 1 watt job to replace the 5 watt halogen in our waterfall, within a month every single LED had died.

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The light output is gonna be the problem, at the moment all the bulbs are 50w and it's just right. Looks like I'm gonna stick with halogen bulbs for now.

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The light output is gonna be the problem, at the moment all the bulbs are 50w and it's just right. Looks like I'm gonna stick with halogen bulbs for now.

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I moved from 50W halogen GU10 to 35W equivalent phillips ones in the kitchen.

In the current place all LED is fine. In a dark kitchen, I found that every other bulb being LED was fine.

It's certainly the case that the phillips ones are a lot brighter than the rest I've seen, so have a look at those before you do write them off.

If you do stay with the halogens, then look for the more expensive 2 year life 38W is 50W equiv halogen versions.

They do what they say on the tin and last more than long enough to pay back the extra cost.

I changed the gu10 cf lamps in the kitchen spots couple of years ago as I was fed up with them taking so long to warm up and they constantly failed. I went with the aurora gu10 6w led spots in a warm white. The light output is great and I not have one failed. I have now changed the rest of the halogen lamps around the the house. In areas like toilets hallways and landings I only went for 3w versions. They are expensive but they last. One thing I won't do is go to the likes of b+q as they sell cheap rubbish lamps and what they charge for their Phillips range of lamps is disgusting. Go to a electrical wholesalers who can do you a better deal than these superstores. When I get home I post the part numbers of the lamps I use

I've bought about 6 from IKEA, they've been pretty good. One thing is that don't have a smooth face on them like the halogen ones, so if you have those fittings that need the little sucker cup to get the bulb in and out then it can be tricky.

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It was a few years ago when Groupon were doing a deal on some GU10 LED's so I decided to take the plunge as I'd been looking for a while to replace some halogen bulbs. That happened to be the one and only deal that never came off as I was forever being told that stock was on it's way etc, but in the end I didn't get any sent and settled for my money being refunded.

Then I read about poor light output, different length fittings etc so haven't yet (re)taken the plunge but that has meant the occasional checking up on threads like this to keep up to date and to see if they're at a realistic price yet.

I need to replace some 50w versions in one room (after all, you can never have enough light when it comes to SWMBO being able to set the exact sharpness of the shirt creases when she's doing the ironing) and depending on their effectiveness, maybe get the same or some lower powered versions for another room.

we intended (and bought) 30 9w Cree Dimmable LED's for the sitting room, but the colour is not to my taste - a bit too industrial. (£100 for 30 from a local eBay'er)

I didn't know that the power had gone up that high and at that price, would be suspicious that they were kosher Cree LED's. Is the light more 'cool' than 'warm' white?

The Phillips 35w equiv ones are excellent and really are like a 35w bulb.

They even do a 50W equiv one, but that's in the Phillips master or commercial ranges and the cost is higher.

Have you got links and or pricing please?

I went with the aurora gu10 6w led spots in a warm white. The light output is great and I not have one failed. They are expensive but they last. Go to a electrical wholesalers who can do you a better deal than these superstores. When I get home I post the part numbers of the lamps I use

Yes please!

Almost all our lights are gu10 spots. Cost and poor light have put me off LED, but given the latest leccy bill I'm pondering getting some.

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Went to asda and got a pack of 3 50w ones for 3 quid, had only removed one to see what wattage I needed and it turns out all the others are 35w, now it's lovely and bright in the kitchen lol

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Went to asda and got a pack of 3 50w ones for 3 quid, had only removed one to see what wattage I needed and it turns out all the others are 35w, now it's lovely and bright in the kitchen lol

I'm presuming these were halogen and not LED though?

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Yeh got halogens for now, our kitchen has no windows and I prefer bright white light so I can see what I'm doing when I'm cremating food lol

Hopefully they'll be some decent leds out when the bulbs go again.

Did think about getting a low energy bulb but the time they take to warm up and the light they give out puts me off, plus they were £4 each at asda

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£14 EACH!

£14 EACH!

No, £13.75 - much better deal! :giggle:

And the problem with that 50W one (and most but not all energy savers) is that rating.

It's 350Lm. That's nowhere near a 50W halogen bulb and is pretty much spot on for a 35W one.

This is why everyone thinks they are dim, because the ratings are unrealistic.

5W instead of 35W is still a big saving when you have 10 of the things in an area.

I personally think the Slyvania (osram), and the philips led lamps are pretty good. Unfortunately both makes are still too expensive in my eyes.

As mentioned there is not a true comparison between led Watts to Halogen Watts. You are indeed better off looking at comparable Lumen / Lux ratings for light output...some might shock you.

Finally colour (temperature) choice should also be considered as to whether you want a warm or cold light. This would be the "industrial" feeling previously mentioned by being too cool, which is great on your car headlights, but not in your living room.

Has anyone tried any Led lamps made by GE (general electric)?

My Electrician got us some 6 watt and 4.5 watt LED for GU10 replacement, the 6w ones are noticeably brighter believe it or not. If you are going to take the plunge and fork out on LED make sure you spend the extra little bit to get decent ones.

Also GU10 are cheap right enough but the blasted things do blow quite often IMO.

Bought some cheap 3w warm white ones off eBay for the office and hall.

Nice and bright and not worried about using them all the time now.

Phil

you guys should look at LED lights on ebay, but be careful and get ones that are CE certified or whatever your local certifying agency is.

 

ive been trialling some for a few years now and have decided to do the whole house.

 

found some GU10 240v warm white 12watt 90degree LEDs (and dimmable) for about AUD$6each when I bought 10.

 

the MR16s that are 12v I have had less luck, but have found an LED driver that appears to be working well for the moment. also dimmable.

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