Saw this today, expensive City Go

 

 

Nah, that's not a Citigo.

More like a Pug 107 with a posh frock.

Nah, just a bloody expensive Toyota IQ.

Brothers driven a few, but then he unloads cars at Bristol docks

Darth Vader's shopping trolley. 

If i wanted an Aston i would never buy that and over priced, dressed up Toyota.

If you already had an Aston or 2 then you might pay less than the price of your watch to buy a nice comfortable and easy to use City Car'.

 

Everyone should experience the interior space, turning circle and easy & fun of driving an iQ in the city..

(You need wide parking places though to get the huge doors open.)

 

£15,000 Toyota iQ's with leather can be very nice roomy and comfortable places to sit,

but do not really say, 'Loads of Money!', 'stuff you poor people', like someone paying double for a Cygnet does.

 

george

 

Anyone thinking of buying a Citgo,Up!,Mii ASG should try a iQ 1.0 Mulidrive (cvt), to see just how bad the VW box is.

I thought Aston were giving them away with some cars to get their c02 figures down.

Are they 'Giving them away'?

 

Or are some discounted when sweetening a deal, when some one is an Aston Customer or going on a waiting list for an expensive one.

They certainly built them to sell to reduce averages on Aston Martins co2/km production.

But freebie Cygnets sounds like a bit much.

 

george

A regular Aston Martin can lose something like £50k in it's first year.

Compared to that having one of these things as a run around for the babysitter is pocket change.

 

Suprised there are not more of them around to be honest.

I think you have to buy a big Aston to get the right to buy the little one. But yes that's a good suggestion that it might drop the overall CO2 for the brand to make some EU nonsense regulation.

i heard a story that you could only buy one if you already own an aston???

I thought Aston were giving them away with some cars to get their c02 figures down.

 

That's definitely why they made the things in the first place.

EU target CO2 for cars, which is basically another tax.

Set a low targt for CO2, then fine car companies if they are over it.

It basically comes down to an additional tax when buying larger cars from premium makers than have less diverse ranges.

There's 10 for sale on autotrader.

Take your pick from£17000.

All ex demo's?

I saw a load of them (Toyota's) stacked up at the AM factory when I went round last time.

 

They hack out the interior replace with leather and stick the AM badge on!

And fit new front and rears panels, lights, bonnet, paint, different wheels etc.

Plenty online on the builds of the Cygnet from stripping down the iQ's purchased from Toyota.

 

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/aston-martin/cygnet/37878/building-aston-martin-cygnet

 

george

This Show Winner from the US was bought as a new standard Scion 1.3 multidrive on steel wheels by Taz,

and then he had some of the build done by the best modifiers he could use. He does the sparks/ICE.

Air Ride Suspension was one of the first mods done.

I spotted one in the centre of Edinburgh with L Plates on, not a bad first car!

I spotted one in the centre of Edinburgh with L Plates on, not a bad first car!

It wouldn't be acceptable for test, the IQ is on the banned list.  The view to the rear is so bad that it is deemed unsafe.  I assume that the AM version would be treated in the same way.

Actually the rear vision is not bad if you mean seeing out the back window for the driver.

 

The All-round vision is the problem for the examiner.

(Blind spot when reversing, or the all-round vision that is  out of the rear quarter panel window which is almost non existent and tinted.

& also The passengers seat is at a different position from the drivers,

but obviously that is the same as on most cars if the seats are far back or forward.

(Obviously not many tests are bing done in the likes of SLKs, Porsches, Lambos etc.)

 

So no iQ/Cygnet for Driving tests the same as with, Mini, Ford Ka , VW Beetle Convertibles & some Panel Vans.

That will probably now include the Mini Clubvan.

 

https://www.gov.uk/practical-driving-test-for-cars/rules-for-cars-used-for-driving-tests

 

**It is a strange thing in the UK, where you can buy a car, start learning to drive, L Plates on, Insured and road legal.

Drive with an Experienced Driver or Driving Instructor next to you, do unlimited miles and mileage other than drive on Motorways.

Then you can not take your test in the car you may have or it has been possible to have been driving for thousands of miles or years.

The Driving Instructor may accept the All-round Vision but an Examiner can not because it is deemed to be Restricted.**

 

george

health and safety rules

like you say george,

as an examiner you are merely acting as an observer.

the driving test will be the first time that the L driver has driven independently with no input from an accompanying driver.

if their observations are not up to standard, then trust me, the examiner needs to have good all round vision!

i should know coz i was one till recently.

cars such as the iQ, new mini etc do not give an acceptable view to the rear offside from the passenger seat, which H&S and risk assessments deem unsafe.

Hopefully you might know,

What is the story about being able to take an 'Supervising Examiner' in the rear seat of a vehicle.

 

Does that mean that a test can not be taken in a Pickup with only 2 seats but good all-round visibility?

& why is it said that,

 Hire Cars used for the test must be fitted with Dual Controls.

(Cars must have a rear view mirror for the examiner, is that the rule now?)

 

Is this all in effect now or hopeful wishing from the Government and just on the website.

 

george

What is the story about being able to take an 'Supervising Examiner' in the rear seat of a vehicle.

Regular check testing is required by the SOP.

it's up to the centre manager to decide when. if the examiners go out to an unsuitable vehicle (fiat 500...not enough room in the back) then the L test still goes ahead but without the supervising examiner. check test rearranged, usually for the next test.

 

Does that mean that a test can not be taken in a Pickup with only 2 seats but good all-round visibility?

a pick up would normally be suitable for test so long as there is good all round vision for the examiner and it is not loaded. if loaded then the candidate would be given a short time to unload before the test can commence.

 

& why is it said that,

 Hire Cars used for the test must be fitted with Dual Controls.

AFAIK dual controls are not required on hire cars, just as they are not for other B category tests, however, if it is clear to the examiner that it is a hire car then the test would most likely not go ahead as the vast majority of hire firms do not insure their cars for the purpose.

 

(Cars must have a rear view mirror for the examiner, is that the rule now?)

the examiner must have a separate internal rear view mirror for his use. the candidate should supply one but on the odd occasion they don't, there are normally a couple of mirrors kept in the test centre to use.

obviously no guarantee there will be so best have your own.

 

an unsuitable vehicle (fiat 500...not enough room in the back)

 

Hmm, I know someone who passed their test in the last couple of years in a Fiat 500, with their instructor sat in the back to translate (examiner next to the driver). I don't agree with the translator thing either, btw, but off topic.

Aren't these on BOGOF when you buy a Real Aston ?        

Hmm, I know someone who passed their test in the last couple of years in a Fiat 500, with their instructor sat in the back to translate (examiner next to the driver). I don't agree with the translator thing either, btw, but off topic.

It can be done but it usually entails the instructor sitting sideways with their feet on the seat!

Interpreters can take the P but if you've had a few of them, you can tell if they're helping out or not, even if you don't understand the lingo.

More often than not the candidate CAN understand perfectly well but just wants someone for moral support.