Is it me or is there only diesels that seem to be available for a test drive? Only do about 6000k a year so petrol probably the better choice.

Gloucester and Swindon have a petrol, not sure of any nearer you...

http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/282311-octavia-vrs-demonstrator-register/

At that mileage maybe a diesel would be best

Is it me or is there only diesels that seem to be available for a test drive? Only do about 6000k a year so petrol probably the better choice.

6000K = 6000,000 = 6 million miles per annum.  That's 16,438 miles per day, so an average speed (if you never stop - no re-fuelling!!!) of 685mph.

 

I think you are confusing the Octavia with the Eurofighter! 

Looked at the diesel estate today, nice, Big con on the  tail pipes though. Two large Chrome outlets  not connected to the tail pipes.

 

Poor design

6000K = 6000,000 = 6 million miles per annum. That's 16,438 miles per day, so an average speed (if you never stop - no re-fuelling!!!) of 685mph.

I think you are confusing the Octavia with the Eurofighter!

Err, 6000k is 3728 miles!

Err, 6000k is 3728 miles!

 

k stands for 1000.

The Kilometer is Km (1.62 Km = 1 mile)

6000 Km = 3728 mi

6000k = 6000000, but they could be in theory either Km or mi.

True, I'm so used to hearing it as k or clicks!

I am a big diesel fan, but having tried a diesel DSG today and looking at the performance difference on paper I would buy the petrol even if I was doing 15k miles per year.

 

Yes, it's going to cost more and probably depreciate more, but it'll put a bigger smile on your face every time you open the taps.

I am a big diesel fan, but having tried a diesel DSG today and looking at the performance difference on paper I would buy the petrol even if I was doing 15k miles per year.

 

Yes, it's going to cost more and probably depreciate more, but it'll put a bigger smile on your face every time you open the taps.

 

Would that be particularly true if you did 15k, mostly motorway driving?

Would that be particularly true if you did 15k, mostly motorway driving?

 

I appreciate it depends how much money we all waste on cars, but in my case of acute car buying and modding mental issues it would be cheaper to buy a petrol and do 20k miles per year if I didn't get bored so quickly and want to change it.

 

I was impressed by the diesel and the petrol is going to be quieter, smoother, around 2 seconds quicker to 60mph and not relying on a synthetic sound generator.  I'm not even going to mention the exhausts because while a bit odd I want to be driving it, not looking up it's bottom.

 

As I said, if I was ordering now I'd go petrol, no question. (and I am a diesel fan)

I do actually do 25-30k miles per year on average...  just not all in the same car.

 

I have a Fabia on order for September which is too late to cancel.

If I could have cancelled that today I'd have signed up for a petrol DSG hatch, tuned it ASAP and been driving around with a big smile on my face. (well, when the hatch actually turned up anyway!)

Well, my conundrum is how much extra I want to spend on fuel a year.  Most of the driving I'll do is on the motorway to work and back, so I reckon I'll get 50mpg from the petrol and almost 60mpg from the diesel on a daily basis.

 

Then, when I want to have a blast in it, the petrol will be awesome.

 

Then, when I have an impromptu long journey to do, the petrol will suck!

So the question is, what extra does it cost (£20,£30,£40 per week) and can you justify it.

I wouldn't plan on getting 50mpg from the petrol or 60mpg from the diesel if working out what you can afford.

I'd personally use the urban figure from the brochure.

That way you won't be driving everywhere at 60mph in a new VRS so you can maintain the fuel budget.

I'm only getting about 50mpg from a 1.2tsi Rapid.

I don't drive particularly quickly as I'm not usually in a rush to get anywhere, but my economy in most cars is usually a bit over the urban figure.

I asked a senior regional VAG manager why there are so few petrol demonstrators across all the brands.

 

He admitted privately there is a lazy and inaccurate assumption from consumers and dealerships that diesel is economical, and also dealerships are well aware that diesel vehicles will generate much higher maintenance costs and therefore profits in the medium-long term.

Edited 24 July, 201312 yr by jayy7

maybe to push customers to choose diesels 

I appreciate it depends how much money we all waste on cars, but in my case of acute car buying and modding mental issues it would be cheaper to buy a petrol and do 20k miles per year if I didn't get bored so quickly and want to change it.

I was impressed by the diesel and the petrol is going to be quieter, smoother, around 2 seconds quicker to 60mph and not relying on a synthetic sound generator. I'm not even going to mention the exhausts because while a bit odd I want to be driving it, not looking up it's bottom.

As I said, if I was ordering now I'd go petrol, no question. (and I am a diesel fan)

I do actually do 25-30k miles per year on average... just not all in the same car.

I have a Fabia on order for September which is too late to cancel.

If I could have cancelled that today I'd have signed up for a petrol DSG hatch, tuned it ASAP and been driving around with a big smile on my face. (well, when the hatch actually turned up anyway!)

Agree Bossfox. The Blackline I have now is one of the best cars ive owned, comfortable, well appointed, quick for a 170hp diesel, DSG makes daily life a bit easier and 6 months down the road its not given me an ounce of bother.

.......the only thing is ive kind of decided now that diesel power really iant floating my boat; its perfectly adequate but nothing more and certainly not as fun as a TSi would have been. Also whilst DSG is good for cruising about and the paddles add a nice dimension im now inclined next time not to tick the 1100 quid option box and just go back to a more interactive manual box.

If I buy a MK3 ill let me heart rule my head and buy a TSi manual hatch for sure.

Edited 27 July, 201312 yr by pipsyp

Is it me or is there only diesels that seem to be available for a test drive? Only do about 6000k a year so petrol probably the better choice.

I've just test-driven a race blue petrol vrs manual estate today I have to say I was very impressed. Very quick and responsive car. I always buy turbo diesel skodas as I do 20k + miles per year. Dealership only had this vrs mk3 in to drive. I shall be ordering a diesel but nonetheless, it was a joy to drive. I took loads of photos as well and will post very soon if anyone is interested.

Agree Bossfox. The Blackline I have now is one of the best cars ive owned, comfortable, well appointed, quick for a 170hp diesel, DSG makes daily life a bit easier and 6 months down the road its not given me an ounce of bother.

.......the only thing is ive kind of decided now that diesel power really iant floating my boat; its perfectly adequate but nothing more and certainly not as fun as a TSi would have been. Also whilst DSG is good for cruising about and the paddles add a nice dimension im now inclined next time not to tick the 1100 quid option box and just go back to a more interactive manual box.

If I buy a MK3 ill let me heart rule my head and buy a TSi manual hatch for sure.

OMG I have a twin....

I spent Thursday morning -> Friday morning in one of the 1.6 diesel DSG demonstrators while my FL TSI L&K was being serviced. Proper test, over 150 miles, both motorway and city traffic during commute across entire Kent all the way to West London and back + return to dealer next morning.

And I have to say, as much as I enjoyed demonstrator car not costing me any serious money (I managed over 60mpg every time, including trip through London traffic) - ultimately the fact that I got bottom poverty spec diesel to compare to my previous gen petrol L&K ultimately cured me from the New Car Acquisition Syndrome - the internal voice that craved for new car and almost made me splash a lot of money on fresh model just because of the new toys.

I could go on for quite a few pages in detail what I think is wrong with O3, but bottom line is, the current non vRS lineup, as offered in UK, is inferior to the previous gen and is absolutely NOT worth the money Skoda currently demands for them. vRS models on the other hand are superior to the previous gen vRS' but ultimately, at current prices, very similar money can secure you better new car with less depreciation prone badge. That means the only people O3 is currently targeting are "rental finance" customers - PCP, fleets etc.

Oddly enough, the thing that surprised me the most was how they effed up the start and stop feature. I had cars with S&S before, including small Skoda curtesy loaners with TSI engine earlier on this year but this time around it felt all wrong on diesel Octy. Half an hour into London traffic that deep, intrusive tremor of diesel engine waking up and dying out every few seconds under your four letters becomes just so tiresome and unsettling but due to the system being stripped from electric power support, that Routemaster brain stirring vibration is now accompanied by the heart sinking feeling every time the steering wheel goes dead, heavy and attempts to spring back when you stop mid turn. The button to switch it off was right there, but OMG - way to murder one of the best features Skoda.

Diesel demonstrator turned out to be the best favour to save me some money this summer.

Edited 27 July, 201312 yr by v0n

I've just test-driven a race blue petrol vrs manual estate today I have to say I was very impressed. Very quick and responsive car. I always buy turbo diesel skodas as I do 20k + miles per year. Dealership only had this vrs mk3 in to drive. I shall be ordering a diesel but nonetheless, it was a joy to drive. I took loads of photos as well and will post very soon if anyone is interested.

Please do and more impressions!