Difference between Superb 3.6 and Passat 3.6

[big_dane]

I'm looking into buying either a Superb 3.6 or a Passat 3.6 and I see that there is a huge difference in HP but the torque is the same. The Passat is said to make 300hp and 350nm and the Superb 260hp and 350nm. So I am wondering if there are actual differences between the engines in the two cars or if this is just a marketing trick so VW can sell the Passat for more cash?

[Huskoda]

I believe the Superb's is exactly the same engine with a lesser map on it, for exactly that reason.

[dobbey]

It'll be down to what rpm it produces the torque if torque is the same but power is different. The calculation for power is [(torque x the rpm at which it is produced) / 5252] = power.

Hence why diesels have good torque but low power

[big_dane]

The Superb produces peak torque between 2.5k and 5k rpm and the Passat between 2.4k and 5.3k rpm, I'm not sure this info is 100% correct, but that's what I was able to find.

[Kiwi 5UPERB]

It's the same engine, just a different map.  I had a re-map done on my 3.6 Superb, and the result is a completely different car - with the same power as the Passat, but more torque (385nm).  The torque is the most noticeable difference - it will happily trundle around at 30mph in 5th gear, but then takes off like a rocket if you put your foot down...

[Albervin]

OK Kiwi, which map? That is exactly what I want. It just better be available near Sydney.

[Supurbia]

Flip a coin and say to yourself do I want the looker B7 (jury out on that not  ugly but not stunning in the way a B6 Sport model was) or the functional, do I need the space in the back and boot or not, those things will be the decider, plus the Skoda's are generally a bit more fuel efficient than the VW's, hth.

[Kiwi 5UPERB]

Albervin - it's a "DNA Tuning" stage 1 map.  They appear to have a dealer in Melbourne, so maybe a good excuse for a decent run ??!

[powerd]

KiwiSuperb - I can't see any references to the Superb !! V6 or the Passat V6 on the DNA tuning website - other engines, yes plenty, but not the V6.  Have I missed something?

 

I had an idea that the 220kw Passat engine also has a better breathing exhaust - it certainly sounds a bit louder and more growly.  Really good in fact.

 

A chap in here in Canberra had a full free-flow exhaust made for his Superb and with no other mods, he claimed it had timed it and it dropped about 1 sec off the 0-100kmh run.  Certainly the video he posted suggested it was more crisp and rapid through the gears than mine.  Sounded absolutely glorious too - quite , deep, snarly and with a real bark on gearchanges.

 

APR don't offer anything here and the local agent had no experience of any performance mods for the Superb V6, or even Passat, when I asked.

 

I would be interested in getting a bit more performance from mine but not ending up with a loud exhaust as I do long distance regularly.

[Kiwi 5UPERB]

Powerd - I'm mystified - it is definitely a DNA tune and even more definitely a 3.6 V6 !  No change to the exhaust, and still a fantastically quiet cruiser (which is something a number of passengers have commented on).  The additional torque is the most noticeable change - the car is just so much more "drive-able", especially at city speeds. I noted recently going up a long and fairly steep hill at 100km/h with 4 in the car it happily stayed in 6th - my previous Audi 3.0 always had to drop a gear or 2 half way up the same hill.

[ste2000]

... do I need the space in the back and boot or not ...

I believe VW B7 and Superb B6 have the same boot size (some 565 l), but twindoor makes the difference.

Edited 22 August, 2013 by ste2000

[Wile7]

Chasing down these V6 threads....

Any updates on the performance mods for the 3.6?

Big_Dane - did you get the Suberb or R36 Passat in the end? If so, what is it like?

Dave

[S28]

I think the R36 engine has a different manifold to the Superb. Something to do variable intake.

[ChrisRs]

If you send a PM to Alan (BlueR36) I'm sure he'll help you out

[Coops]

Chasing down these V6 threads....

Any updates on the performance mods for the 3.6?

Big_Dane - did you get the Suberb or R36 Passat in the end? If so, what is it like?

Dave

 

Big_Dane hasn't been on line since he made that post in 2013!

[ChrisRs]

Ooops!!  

[Wile7]

Well.....at least the thread got bumped and a few answered