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Warm Weather & the PD 130 Engine

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Is it just me :confused: or is the old 130bhp PD TDi not fond of the warm weather that we have experienced in the North West today :cool: . Drove to work this morning when it was cool and it was its usual fairly refined, smooth and powerful self :thumbup: , drove home this evening and it was no where near as responsive and was chucking out a load more soot :eek:

Is it just me :confused: or is the old 130bhp PD TDi not fond of the warm weather that we have experienced in the North West today :cool: . Drove to work this morning when it was cool and it was its usual fairly refined, smooth and powerful self :thumbup: , drove home this evening and it was no where near as responsive and was chucking out a load more soot :eek:

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I'm a shandy-drinking southern fairy but I agree :thumbup:

It's why I will be signing up for the FMIC GB as soon as Neo_VR has finished help testing it ;)

It's a result of heat soak. Either go for a FMIC or opt for a water-spray system to keep the existing intercooler ... er ... cooler ;)

Chris

Can you actually see soot in the rear view when you boot it because I dont notice any or a drop in performance :confused:

Notice mine is lacking somewhat in the heat, but not noticed any excess soot!!!

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Can you actually see soot in the rear view when you boot it because I dont notice any or a drop in performance :confused:

Sure can mate..........

Go on then... heres what ya need to cure it :D

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Go on then... heres what ya need to cure it :D

F'in Hell, how much extra weight does that add ????? Have no intention of upgrading my front suspension to something a-kin to that of a Challenger Tank !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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It's a result of heat soak.

;)

Chris

What's that :confused: Sounds like some sort of new bath foam from Radox !!!

Its made out of alloy, so ill bet it weighs less than the original (small) sidemount item... it weighs about 2 or 3kg..

Its a front mounted intercooler. it cools the air that goes into the engine :D

Heatsoak is when the engine is affected by the heat of the air going into it.. because hot air is less dense, so doesnt combust as strongly, the engine has to start lowering turbo boost levels and fuelling to keep optimal running.. which to the driver feels like the engine is being lethargic and down on power..

my front mount cools the air alot, so everyday is like a ice cold winter morning for me.. car is always running at its most efficant :D

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Its made out of alloy' date=' so ill bet it weighs less than the original (small) sidemount item... it weighs about 2 or 3kg..

Its a front mounted intercooler. it cools the air that goes into the engine :D[/quote']

Sounds good, take it you had it custom built? Please forgive my lack of technical knowledge, as you probably can tell I'm no mechanic !! Take it that will make on hell of a difference then?

Is that the 50mm depth version there Colin? - i see the mounting lugs seem to have been adjusted - looks better..

Matt: yes it is the 50mm ver. mounting lugs are same, but the whole i/c is lower down.. leaves scope for adjustment :)

Johnwg:

no worries.. im not exactly up on the tecchy knowledge either.. it looks good and works well... this one is nearing 3x the capacity of the standard side mount.. Its not custom built, its the development model for Forge.. who will be running a briskoda group buy on them soon :D

who will be running a briskoda group buy on them soon :D

this waiting is killing me.. lol!

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this waiting is killing me.. lol!

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patience young padwan :D

We have to make sure its ready to unleash to the good briskodians..

its about getting a balance between cooling efficience without causing too much turbo lag.. it could swing either way at the moment. :o

Mmmm BFOFMIC!!! Me Want :)

If possible, please keep testing until my bank account is healthy enough to have my name on the Group Buy. :D

What kinda timescales are we talking about, roughly? One or two months tops ?

Can you actually see soot in the rear view when you boot it because I dont notice any or a drop in performance :confused:

Hmmm, even when it was 31/32 degrees my vRS was as fast/responsive with deffo no more soot :confused:

Depends on how you drive it too - but even I noticed it smoking badly, and normally I hardly ever get that.

The car is definitely slower / prone to heatsoak during warm days when you do a bit of accelerate/slow-cycling..

Yes it does depend how you drive it..

There is definately a performance drop in hot weather.. the engine seems "wooley" and sluggish..

it will smoke a bit more.. but just wait if you get intake or fuel temps up to the 90c trigger temp ;)

...Heatsoak is when the engine is affected by the heat of the air going into it.. because hot air is less dense' date=' so doesnt combust as strongly, the engine has to start lowering turbo boost levels and fuelling to keep optimal running.. which to the driver feels like the engine is being lethargic and down on power..

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I thought (on petrol cars at least) heatsoak causes overfuelling? I.E. boost reduced and fuelling increased to combat detonation, which is why there's more smoke and generally your fuel economy is crapper?

Mine is smokin badly above 4k in this warm weather but it's only in 4th and 5th, havn't tried it in 6th. Must be when the load / drag increased, it's enough to put other drivers off driving too close. :rolleyes:

Diesel not burning properly causes the smog screen stuff ;)

If you plant it at low revs in a high gear you'll see what I mean. Better to drop a cog, rev it up a bit more.

@black magic - I'd hope you dont get up to 4k in those gears on a public road ;) ;)

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