I have heard a lot of stories about problems with the 7 speed DSG, can anyone who's had one a while say if it's been reliable and are all the problems now resolved with them.

Also if in a 1.6TDI what sort of mpg do they get compare to a manual.

Hi, I've done just over 20,000 in a year with mine. It's superb. Manually calculated average over that period 58.7mpg

Regards all

Juan

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Hi, I've done just over 20,000 in a year with mine. It's superb. Manually calculated average over that period 58.7mpgRegards allJuanSent from my iPhone using my thumbs

Is that the 1.6tdi?

Best described as a "Parsons egg"

I have and am still experiencing problems with slow speed manouvering, especially on a slope, especially especially reversing.

But once moving absolutly brilliant.

marcus

Edited 15 September, 201312 yr by dieseldogg

I still prefer, and will probably always prefer, a proper automatic (or a manual) for slow speed manuevering and stop/go traffic. The clutch robot can only make decisions and react based on the input you give it using the accelerator and brake. It would be much nicer if it could read my mind and be ready for my pedal inputs before I actually make them.

 

A normal automatic, on the other hand, is always in gear and doesn't have the clutch delay that a DSG has, making parking manuevers etc a lot easier. Same goes for a normal manual where you are in control of the clutch instead of some brain somewhere in the dashboard. 

 

But like dieseldogg says, the DSG is brilliant once moving. It shifts crisply, smoothly and quickly, and you don't have that slushy disconnected feeling you get in an automatic. I don't mind that, but some people hate it and love the DSG because it has the same "connected" feel you have in a manual car.  

 

I need a very good reason to look at manual cars again. I'm completely over them, and have been so for many years now. There's just no point. I'm still undecided whether I'll get another DSG after this car (real autos are better for stop/go) but manual, ugh. No thanks.

 

And I've put exactly 11,444 km on mine so far (since last November) with zero issues. I'm aware that the DSG7 has been less than reliable, but there are also lots of satisfied owners out there. 

100% with all you say Perc.

Likewise I am probably "over" manuals this past 20 years.

Automatic, of some form, be it DSG, Torque Convertor or CVT,(though I would prefer a Fendt tractor type hydrostatic modulated CVT) all the way.

Erm!

Having the reference to Fendt, and bearing in mind our cars habit of over-riding/ignoring my attempted throttle pedal inputs.

When will automatic cars switch to a "go" pedal, which would control the speed directly, irrespective of engine revs.

Rather than the somewhat primitive conventional throttle pedal.

I.E. Same pedal doing the same job i.e speed control, but in a different more fuel efficient manner.

I presume the hybrids already do so, they must surely?

gibber

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twitch

Edited 16 September, 201312 yr by dieseldogg

Is that the 1.6tdi?

Yes it is

Regards all

Juan

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I echo what Dieseldogg and Perc have said.  99.99% of the time the DSG7 is utterly magnificent.

 

The Achilles heel (and it literally is the Achilles heel because it's the gearbox) - is slow speed maneuvering up a steep gradient.  No problem on the flat or on gentle gradient - just take your foot off the brake and it trickles along on tickover/anti-stall.  On a steeper gradient where you need to apply throttle, mine occasionally said "enough", disengaged the clutch and left me rolling back down the hill.  If I reacted by applying throttle it took off like a scalded cat.  With experience I could see it coming and just hit the brake and tried again.  OK for me reversing out of my drive but it put me off ever trying to do a reverse park into a tight gap on a hill and made me very nervous crawling in traffic up hill.

 

Footnote - Murray Walker fans will recognise the quote above - sorry couldn't resist it!

On a steeper gradient where you need to apply throttle, mine occasionally said "enough", disengaged the clutch and left me rolling back down the hill.  If I reacted by applying throttle it took off like a scalded cat. 

 

Someone I know with an 1.8 TSI DSG7 had this issue, he had the dealer do a software update to fix it.

 

Mine is slightly newer and I've never experienced the issue at all. 

I echo what Dieseldogg and Perc have said. 99.99% of the time the DSG7 is utterly magnificent.

The Achilles heel (and it literally is the Achilles heel because it's the gearbox) - is slow speed maneuvering up a steep gradient. No problem on the flat or on gentle gradient - just take your foot off the brake and it trickles along on tickover/anti-stall. On a steeper gradient where you need to apply throttle, mine occasionally said "enough", disengaged the clutch and left me rolling back down the hill. If I reacted by applying throttle it took off like a scalded cat. With experience I could see it coming and just hit the brake and tried again. OK for me reversing out of my drive but it put me off ever trying to do a reverse park into a tight gap on a hill and made me very nervous crawling in traffic up hill.

Footnote - Murray Walker fans will recognise the quote above - sorry couldn't resist it!

My 2013 6 speed wet clutch vRS CR 170 is very much the same. It it utterly terrible in exactly the same way, my car also does not have hill hold which makes slow speed incline work twice as bad.

Has anyone made any progress with this recurring (and fault code inducing) fault?

vis-a-vis slow speed manouvering on a slope/incline.

Marcus