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Fabia vrs mk2 itg induction kit

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I had a Revo drop in filter before i installed the ITG kit, Revo filter improved the sound of the engine and intake, but no noticeable difference in performance or consumption from my POV.

Has there, by any chance, been a comparison of the ITG kit vs. just the VWR filter: http://www.volkswagenracing.co.uk/parts/vwr-high-flow-panel-air-filter-29/ ? Does the second offer any gains over stock and are they comparable to the ITG's gains? Does it make sense to upgrade to this over the stock filter?

 

Ill tell you what for the sake of science choose one of the links below to buy and ill buy the other and we'll put reviews on here in 2 weeks ?

 

http://www.awesomegti.com/parts/engine/panel-filters/volkswagen-racing-high-flow-replacement-filter-skoda-fabia-vrs-5j

 

http://www.awesomegti.com/parts/engine/panel-filters/itg-profilter-skoda-fabia-12-tdi-14-tsi-0510-12-tsi-16-tdi-0310

Some comparison in action now,

I have in the Mahl @ £14.26  & it replaced a Wix @ £16.36,  

and in comparison pretty much like your £88 & 99 Air Filters. Just quieter.

 

If you each buy one of those and keep using them,

while i buy and use another 5 fresh filters to change could we see how we are getting on in 4 years time.?

 

 

Lol, I doubt either review will differ from the legendary: "I think the car feels that bit more responsive now!" so without solid evidence (same car, same dyno, before and after runs) I can hardly claim I am doing this for the sake of science!

 

I'm afraid I will have to splash the cash for the ITG kit in the end. Although hardly an expert in induction systems, what does the kit offer more in comparison to just the filter? Does that much more really happen inside that uprated box?

  • 2 weeks later...

excuse the long post, if you know all about it just move on to the questions at the bottom of the post please!!

 

On Friday I received my ITG kit and upon inspection of the parts, I found there was a difference on the small (silicon?) tube that connects on the outlet of the filter-box and has a hole to connect the breather pipe on to it, with respect to what was shown and described in VRS-Powered's excellent DIY guide (see attached photos). As you can see there was no adapter to connect the breather pipe to so I had to contact ITG and ask what was the case. As they quickly confirmed the design has been changed from what it was on 2012. The small white adapter has been removed, the hole is now bigger and the breather pipe is foreseen to be pushed directly into the tube's hole. Anyone installing a recent kit, no need to worry about something missing as I did!  :giggle:

 

The installation was almost as easy as described in the DIY guide, took me 30 minutes in a rather slow pace. Off then to test what changed...

 

In revving the engine while stationary (DSG in N) I could hardly tell any difference either from the inside or outside of the car but... when the car started going that was a completely different story! The supercharger sounds really woken up, burying the pedal around 1500-2000 rpm sends a real whine/scream out, much much more pronounced than before and the "woosh" relief when the turbo takes over is also louder. Had some fear that it would be too... "chav-ish" but it is so amusing that since yesterday I am constantly driving in D in order to be in a high gear and then just briefly push hard the gas pedal only to hear this again and again...  :rofl:  

 

A few things which I'd like to ask though:

 

1) In turning the engine on, there is I think a knocking sound which is heard once every time I start the car but only then. That was certainly not heard before and I think the ITG is touching some fluid cap which is located exactly below it as I noticed during installation.

 

2) Up to 2000 rpm everything is as before but at 2400 rpm I feel a clear "vibration" on the gas pedal which was not there before upgrading. It's as the "vibration" you normally feel on the gas pedal at higher rpm (say 5000) but it now kicks in at 2400 and quite abruptly I would say. I was worried at the beginning but then I thought 2400 rpm is where the SC starts working so maybe the new induction is making it work harder?? But is it in a good way or a bad one? That I can't tell. Obviously without dyno figures everything is subjective but I don't feel the car any slower than before so probably nothing wrong i think.

 

3) Intake pipe's placement. Following other installations I have placed the pipe exactly behind the left headlight at a 45 degree looking downwards. It's only 2-3 centimetres away from the headlight's rubber cap I know but there is where I saw it installed on other cars as well so I thought I'd do the same.

 

What do other people with ITG think on the above? Have they experienced the same before and after differences and what about my pipe's placement with respect to theirs?

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Edited by newbie69

Looking good pal,

Your new silicon tube looks like mine, which is old.

Get used to hearing things you never did before, I wouldn't assume anything wrong.

If the ITG let's in more air, the car will adjust the fuelling and should mean SC and TC are giving a little more, this is probably your pedal feeling. But also, whenever I change anything on the car, I spend a few days on high alert listening and feeling for issues, normally anything that weirds me out I find was always there, I was just looking so hard for any problems introduced I spot old stuff I never noticed before.

I have my intake pipe a little further from the headlamp than that, the space you feed into is all apparently a high pressure zone of air, so I figured make use of all of it.

Question is.................does it 'feel' faster, lol :rofl:

I know what you're saying about noticing new things that were already there but the gas pedal's vibration at 2400 rpm is very clear and surely a new one. Now, the good explanation would be, as you said , that the ITG allows for more air in  and SC is giving a little more. The bad one would be I guess that I placed the intake pipe so close to the headlamp that I am actually reducing the flow and the Supercharger struggles to receive the necessary amount of air when it kicks in, hence the noise at exactly that point. No scientific evidence to choose either version though. I will try to move back the intake pipe by a few cm's and do another test-drive. Also things will be clearer when I do the dyno run before the remap. You would expect a stock vRS with a (correctly installed) ITG to give a little more than 180 bhp...

 

 

Question is.................does it 'feel' faster, lol :rofl:

 

Lol, wouldn't say faster sparkly, but actually... "a bit more responsive"! (all time fave quote)

Edited by newbie69

Looking good!

My installation and kit is the exact same as yours, although mine has a jubilee clip on the little air flow sensor section on the rubber pipping to secure it.

I was surprised what a difference it makes. Lovely sounds and I do find myself jabbing the throttle while cruising just to spool the turbo up.

I have never had a vibration feeling on the throttle pedal. But then again I've never noticed and I've got big clumsy feet anyway! I'm in love with it. Best £££'s I've spent on her so far.

Enjoy :-)

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Hmm, maybe I should do a swap with the stock induction to make sure all the things I noticed come indeed from the new kit and weren't there in the first place.

 

I was just out placing the intake pipe over the battery terminals looking straight down to see if that makes any difference, but it only made the vibration/droning stronger I think so back below the terminals it was. Oh, and trying to get it back between the battery it seems I broke a clip that held some wiring loom to the chassis!  :wall:   Did I mention how easy the installation was? Guess I should take that back...

You don't have dyno evidence of what your car was putting out before the ITG.

But I believe that it is good for 5-10bhp gain over stock and peak power holds better at the point where the engine is really working and the stock intake is a touch restrictive

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