really? I think VW components has fallen down from the top some some time ago already,

while Renault, Kia, Hyundai are moving up each year...

 

Hi Robert/Offnote!  You have been rumbled.  Admin shall be dealing with you in due course!  

Seems like hundreds of french people disagree with you. As do I.

 

Good luck with that then, i am sure there is medication you can get. Oh btw you can find your local opticians here www.specsavers.co.uk

 

Looks aside, if someone is in the running for a roomy family suv and they can afford a higher spec new duster over a lower/mid spec Yeti then yes it could very well be considered a competitor.

As i previously said when i viewed a duster prior to buying my Yeti i really was pleasently suprised and did seriously consider one. They are good cars.

Looks aside, if someone is in the running for a roomy family suv and they can afford a higher spec new duster over a lower/mid spec Yeti then yes it could very well be considered a competitor.

As i previously said when i viewed a duster prior to buying my Yeti i really was pleasently suprised and did seriously consider one. They are good cars.

 Fixed that for you!! I'm afraid it is ages since Renault made a reliable vehicle and the idea that doing it more cheaply will boost quality.....

 Fixed that for you!! I'm afraid it is ages since Renault made a reliable vehicle and the idea that doing it more cheaply will boost quality.....

Thanks, but there was no need. It is a good car. So it may not be up to VW quality standards, but it's a good car.

 

My dads brand new fabia estate was back in the dealer after 2 days for an ABS fault so even skoda have there faults.

 Fixed that for you!! I'm afraid it is ages since Renault made a reliable vehicle and the idea that doing it more cheaply will boost quality.....

 

Taking off all the shiny new more complex bits and sticking with tried and tested more simple mechanicals seems *exactly* the way to improve on reliability.

They used to make one of the all time greats the 4- sturdy, simple and extrenmely capable -the 5 started out with the same baic honesty. My experience may not be typical but is that they have produced unreliable and increasingly pretentious vehicles since Dacia made a version of the 12 which was at least cheap but in the Soviet block tradition of crude engineering based on obsolete tooling.The duster may prove to be a turning point but I'm afraid it's appeal is lost on me -it is a lot of vehicle for the money and has a commonplace generic appeal as it fits the now popular SUV style at a lower price point. Kia and Hyundai have the same market slot in their view and have achieved success as the perception has increased that their build quality/reliability is at or near the best.

Making and selling things which resemble quality products is not enough.There will always be people who want them if they are cheap and they may pass muster -It is hard to see any difference between a Siemens/bosche dishwasher and one from whirlpool-until you own and use both. There are plenty of laptops which look nice and do what a Sony one does. Plenty of phones which do all that an iPhone does  but if you can afford to choose which you prefer many people choose the pricier option.Why does anyone buy a Mercedes SUV whn they could get a SSanyong Musso? What is there about a Sharan/Galaxy which a Rodius cannot deliver? Since a £5 quartz watch tells better time than a Rolex why do they sell for so little.

It isn't just badge snobbery since I have a perfect copy Rolex, a present from a pal and a real one. An observer might not be able to see the difference and since the copy is a facsimile of the Daytona and the real one is a much humbler model if the aim was to impress it wouldn't be the fake sitting in the bottom of a drawer.

There are people who don't "get" quality and the market caters for them. They may have a point, and I'm sure that simple utility justifies a lot.

If I couldn't afford to let my pleasure in the quality of objects play a part in my purchasing decisions life would be cheaper but for me it would always feel cheaper too.

Blimey! I'm driving the same car as a man who owns a genuine Rolex watch! Yippee...