Got a vehicle defect rectification form off the local police for my exhaust. Ive got a piper turbo back exhaust no silencers. Do i need to just fit a silencer or return it to standard in order to get the form sorted?

Im going to fit a silencer anyways. But i dont want to fork out on one if i have to buy a standard exhaust anyways.

Help please? Never had one before.

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Did they test the sound with machine or ear ?

Don't know about what's needed but it has to be tested and brought under 101db's (I think!)

This might just mean a different backbox, one or two silencers being fitted.

Just said its too loud. Looked underneath and saw it had no silencer. Got his form out.

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Just said its too loud. Looked underneath and saw it had no silencer. Got his form out.

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My guess would be to fit a silencer, what does it say on the form? Have you gotta take it to a garage to get them to sign it?

It just has to pass an MOT equivalent test 

But it passes mot without a silencer?

Yeahh gotta get them to sign it and send it off. Im probably best going into the garage and asking i think. See what they say, i guess its their decision

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Just said its too loud. Looked underneath and saw it had no silencer. Got his form out.

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if he's just said 'it's too loud' without checking using a decible meter, he's got no grounds to bring any charges.

Find a friendly garage and get them to tick it off. Police can be idiots some times even though they are there for the best some just get bored.

I got stopped in snaith many years ago for my induction kit on my corsa been to loud,

 

wonder if it was the same police officer with nothing else better to do,

 

Take it to mot testing station, get them to sign form that its legal and send it in, job done

Pretty sure the MOT says "Exhaust system - complete, secure, without serious leaks and silences effectively" which annoyingly is an opinion since no MOT centre to my knowledge has a Db meter. Like Joe says, im pretty sure the garage that MOTed it in the first place would sign it off since they cant argue that they passed it like that anyway. 

They are just keeping themselves in a job. If it Passed mot it's road legal. Not even debatable.

My only suggestion is read mot requirements clearly and look for visual references and sound references.

Without jumping to conclusions it's probably a case of a bored policeman.

I wonder how many Harvey Davidson this copper reports? If yours is too loud. So are any transit vans and any other agricultural sounding vehicle. Jobs worth ****.

my friends car failed a mot for a incomplete exhaust system (1 silencer removed) so it can be hit and miss

Never had a problem myself with a custom system, no boxes, no cat. Dont see how it can be louder than 101dbs. 

Regulation 97 of the Road Vehicles (Construction and Use) Regulations 1986 provides for the avoidance of excessive noise from motor vehicles

No motor vehicle shall be used on a road in such manner as to cause any excessive noise which could have been avoided by the exercise of reasonable care on the part of the driver.

The only equipment the copper needs to determine if your car is too loud, are the sticky out things on either side of his head. It's a subjective test.

Given the experience of the local scooby/skyline owners around here, you don't stand a chance if it goes to court. The second the court hears that you removed the silencer/muffler, it's game over. Passing an MOT is no defence.

Some of the cars, have been siezed (IIRC, under section 59) when the police got fed up with issuing a series of £30 fines. One guy even ended up with an ASBO.

Be that as it may rwbaldwin, that is the most ridiculous piece of bulls**t I've ever heard!! I mean that in no disrespect to your post - just to how ridiculous it is...

 

I have a full straight through system on mine, and to think that I (a 30 year old lecturer - the type of job that people consider the person to be 'responsible') could potentially get an ASBO for it, is just ludicrous!

 

What the hell is wrong with some cops....  If I was going around driving like an absolute muppet everywhere then fair play and so-be-it. However, if I decide to sensibly give my car the beans on a slip road or something, then it just baffles me that this could be a possible outcome :-/

 

Argh, probably need to stop ranting!! It's not been a good day today sorry!

Never had a problem myself with a custom system, no boxes, no cat. Dont see how it can be louder than 101dbs. 

 

Someone had theirs noise tested and it was a fair way over, too loud for my local track on track days

Personal preference that is. If its mot'd and insured stating what has been done to the exhaust it is legal. Court cant argue if its passed mot and has insurance covering it. Only way the police will have anything to say is if its been sound checked at over 101db .

In general, I don't like subjective tests because different individuals will come to different conclusions.

The MOT is a limited, point-in-time test that doesn't include a road test. Passing an MOT, unfortunately, means nothing more than you passed an MOT test.

One local indy mechanic told me one of his customers passed an MOT with the wrong suspension fitted. It rolled like a clown car in the corners and police stopped him to say his suspension had failed. I would say it is not roadworthy, but no fine and no rectification notice. He thanked them and was let on his way. Cars can have wobbly wheels or wobbly steering at high speed and still get passed an MOT.

At the time the scoobys and skylines were getting done, I chatted about this with the copper who lives near me. He thinks Regulation 97 is great because it not only takes into account mods to the car, but also the way the car is driven (or both).

Drive your car with a loud exhaust in 3rd/4th in a busy city in the middle of the day - no problem.

Drive your car with a loud exhaust in 1st/2nd in a sleepy village in the middle of the night - problem.

Of course this is a subjective test :(

As for the ASBO, I think the guy deserved it. He was starting his very loud scooby just before 6am every morning and basically told the cops to get lost. Rumour has it, he had been given ten £30 fines before they siezed his car. The guy is real Richard Head.

I wonder how many Harvey Davidson this copper reports? If yours is too loud. So are any transit vans and any other agricultural sounding vehicle. Jobs worth ****.

I'm pretty sure that agri vehicles don't have to confirm to the same regs as road vehicles.

The guy is real Richard Head.

 

 That tickled me!

I'm pretty sure that agri vehicles don't have to confirm to the same regs as road vehicles.

So Fabia vRS should be okay then???

This is brand new, left the factory making this noise and has passed any standards that are needed for UK roads.   I can only imagine the Police man didn't like the cut of your jib sonny, because they call everybody son.

 

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