I'm pretty sure that agri vehicles don't have to confirm to the same regs as road vehicles.

We had a tractor with a straight pipe off the turbo, just straight up, never got stopped for disturbing the peace ever.

I'm pretty sure that agri vehicles don't have to confirm to the same regs as road vehicles.

The following are exempted from regulation 66 (where the 101db noise limit come from) but there are no exemptions to regulation 97. In simple terms, if the noise is excessive (subjective) and avoidable (subjective) then even the driver of the following vehicles can get done.

a motorcycle with a sidecar attached.

an agricultural motor vehicle which is first used before 1st June 1986 or which is not driven at more than 20 mph.

an industrial tractor.

a road roller.

a vehicle specially constructed, and not merely adapted, for the purpose of fighting fires or salvage from fires at or in the vicinity of airports, and having an engine power exceeding 220kW.

a vehicle which runs on rails; or

a vehicle manufactured by Leyland Vehicles Ltd and known as the Atlantean Bus, if first used before 1st October 1984.

The following are exempted from regulation 66 (where the 101db noise limit come from) but there are no exemptions to regulation 97. In simple terms, if the noise is excessive (subjective) and avoidable (subjective) then even the driver of the following vehicles can get done.

a motorcycle with a sidecar attached.

an agricultural motor vehicle which is first used before 1st June 1986 or which is not driven at more than 20 mph.

an industrial tractor.

a road roller.

a vehicle specially constructed, and not merely adapted, for the purpose of fighting fires or salvage from fires at or in the vicinity of airports, and having an engine power exceeding 220kW.

a vehicle which runs on rails; or

a vehicle manufactured by Leyland Vehicles Ltd and known as the Atlantean Bus, if first used before 1st October 1984.

not sure I believe that last bit :think:

cant really see the point in removing silencers especiall on a diesel but thats down to the idividual. I know one thing though if i had a neighbour starting his car in the early hours of the morning with no silencers, id kindly remove his windows for him too

This is brand new, left the factory making this noise and has passed any standards that are needed for UK roads. I can only imagine the Police man didn't like the cut of your jib sonny, because they call everybody son.

Enjoy, sweet music made by a big Cat...... and not the dross background music in the video.

That is the best sounding thing I have ever heard!!!

That's true the jag actually sounds like a big cat.

Epic.

I wonder how many Harvey Davidson this copper reports? .

IIRC they get some form of agricultural exemption LOL. Even the exhaust note has a patented farming theme. Potato, potato, potato, potato

I know one thing though if i had a neighbour starting his car in the early hours of the morning with no silencers, id kindly remove his windows for him too

 

I think you have hit the nail on the head. With mods like this, it's all about not taking the P***.

 

I'm not saying the OP was taking the P*** but plenty do. Recently there is someone in my road who gets visited by someone in a low, petrol powered coupe (only seen it in the dark, so not sure what it actually is) with an aftermarket exhaust with no silencing. It's bloody loud, and when he leaves at 1 am and boots it down the road while everyone is asleep, I would happily rid him of his windows too.   

Sorry to hear Luke, my piper without silencers was 98decibels when it was sound checked at castle Combe, so you shouldn't have had any problems

I have to silence mine....  3" straight through would be awesome but i have a fairly long 3" bore longlife silencer cut & shut into the system.  Does the job well enough to take away all the roughness, but is essentially straight through on power.

 

It's not too tough for an exhaust place to cut & shut a decent silencer box in somewhere.

 

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Agree totally with rwbaldwin, after 25 years of serving in 5-0 I never had a case where it was overturned in court I favour of the defendant. To be fair, most people accept their transgression when issued with a G85 and get the 'defect' rectified.

The quoted legislation is correct, as is the fact that it is a subjective test.

Police officers have discretion, therefore, can choose to take action according to the circumstances relevant at that time.

S59 was brought in as a result of 'boy races' for want of a better phrase, and allowed Police to deal with cars driven in an anti-social manner etc.

That discretion could be used to say, allow a 1930's Bentley 8 which sounds like God gargling, but to take action against a spotty oik in a TurboNutter****** revving the nuts off a car for no good reason (ok, not the best of examples, but you get the idea).

The top and bottom of it all is that there is legislation in place to deal with this, and you basically get a 'get out of jail free' if you get a form G85 Vehicle Rectification Notice; essentially it's a warning shot across your bows, further transgression MAY result in a Report For Summons and an appearance in front of 'the beak'

Some would suggest that the Police target younger drivers; whilst I can honestly say I never did that, it is quite often the younger drivers that transgress various motoring laws (my favourites were no seatbelt, misrepresented vehicle registration marks, and seat backs reclined almost horizontally so that the driver does not have proper control), and therefore draw attention to themselves.

Perhaps I'm getting old, but I avoided scrutinisation by the police when I was a young driver like the plague

(Except for when I had a Mexico with a straight through exhaust - I got pulled by the

Coal cop, and got it fixed that week)

Sorry to hear Luke, my piper without silencers was 98decibels when it was sound checked at castle Combe, so you shouldn't have had any problems

 ive messaged rob at w8 where i bought it from to see if i can get just the silencer and tip. should save me a chunk of cash!

 

i really like the sound some days, but when commuting, it just drones on.

 

Ive never really noticed how loud it was from outside though until my friends commented yesterday. 

 

looks like its time to quieten down aha

Luke you dont need to buy a new tip mate - Piper charge £100+ for that tiny tip section (it's a joke!!) but all you need is the silenced section it will mate up to the tip you have already.

 

Piper stung me about £160 for the silencer I believe.

that sucks theyre so expensive as i wanted an oval lol

 

i'll just weld one up i think aha

 

cheers josh

Rob will be able to do the silencer on its own

Theres a numpty up my street with straight through on a pd150

Drives like a looney and sounds like a badly owl

I wanna stick a cabbage up the 'zorst' innit

Someone had theirs noise tested and it was a fair way over, too loud for my local track on track days

Meh, i dont know, i got pulled as they thought my exhaust was blowing 

If it Passed mot it's road legal.

Confirmed road legal on the day it passed - the bit of paper just means it doesn't need checking again for another 364 days.

Confirmed road legal on the day it passed - the bit of paper just means it doesn't need checking again for another 364 days.

No, it doesn't, it just means that the testable items (in the opinion of the tester) met the minimum requirement at the time of test.  Tinted front windows are not legal, yet cars fitted with them pass the test every day.

 

A sound meter is not on the MOT test equipment list, the test that should be done is to listen if it sounds louder than a standard system when revved during the emissions/smoke test.  I would say that if it doesn't have silencers, it must therefore be louder than a standard exhaust.

 

The driver is still responsible for checking that their car is roadworthy for the other 364 days of the year.

Dont worry im 37 and a train driver and am now on 7th pull in 5 months, whilst travelling to and from work( i do shifts so odd hours sometimes)

Last time they followed me for 7 miles in 2 cars to pull me and say it looked like i was driving fast but they didnt have a gun so couldnt tell!

Best time was outside work at 5am on a sat morn, me in my uniform and they proceeded to do a full check of car making first train up 40 late.

I don t drive like a tool and mine has a non resonated milltek full system, my collegues Golf R32 is far far louder

If you have a smart phone, which you probably do as nearly everyone does, download a dB meter app and see how loud the exhaust actually is. Won't be perfect probably but it will give you a rough figure.

Surely they have no legal basis on which to prosecute if the test Is done by ear..? How can you prosecute someone based upon an opinion..?

Because a fabias sounds ****ing awful with no silencers and no cat lol. Seriously. It's a bad bad broken sounding noise especially at idle!

I'd pull one just for sounding broken if I were a copper sat by you at the lights. Not to mention they are surprisingly loud when given a bit of poke if you were to drive past a copper.

So pleased the guy with the non-silenced car does not live around me.

 

What's the point, I don't think he's modified it to get more power, in fact he's probably got less, the noise inside the car must be unbearable, he's obviously got no thought for his passengers especially on long journeys, furthermore he's obviously got no thought for the neighbourhood where he lives.

 

I think the Police have every right to pursue him until he gets it changed back to standard, the sooner the better.

 

DB. 

Interesting thread. Public (and police) perception is a very strange thing. The same people that would smile and wave at a group of Lotus with load exhausts driving by (I have experienced this) would probably gesticulate and glare at a group of hatchbacks making the same noise. Ferraris and Lambos are often much louder, but get away with it pretty much all the time.

 

As someone who often goes on and organises runs for the Lotus forum I belong too, it always makes me smile when were are standing about and hear a loud 'normal' car go by and people make boy racer comments, especially as the Lotus only has a 'normal' 4 pot engine as well, so where is the difference as most of the Lotus will have a sports exhaust, some being very loud.

 

Many people have had to get quieter exhausts to get on trackdays as some of the noise levels can be quite restrictive, particularly Goodwood and Bedford.

 

I do think you are more likely to get pulled for excessive noise in a sporty hatch, than you would in a 2 seater sports car or supercar.