I haven't seen any published comparison between the VAG DSG and other twin-clutch gearboxes.  Any one have a link to such a review?

I thought all torque converter boxes had gone the way of the dinasours due to weight, and the consequent effect on fuel consumption.

Even if they were more reliable and easier to use especially hill starts, I suppose the question should be how does the vag unit compare to other makes, I would guess quite well, anybody know any different.?

 

Here is  a link to the zf 8 speed box, I don't understand most of it if I'm honest, but in the video presentation they did say torque converter slip is reduced and gear changes from 8th-2nd are possible.

 

http://www.zf.com/corporate/en/products/innovations/8hp_automatic_transmissions/8hp_automatic_transmission.html

 

In my M135i (which is 3 litre petrol and twin scroll turbo) I can get 40mpg+ on a run if steady at 70mph on motorway, I mostly drive around town and does up to around 30mpg, which considering the performance of the car is pretty good imho.

 

 

I do like both the DSG and the zf 8, both are really good gearboxes, the dsg can get caught out and is a bit clunky if you're not delicate with the loud pedal at low speeds, whilst I can honestly say I haven't experienced similar on the zf, but the zf can be a bit lumpy when really cold outside for the first few gear changes. But the zf is a newer design of box and I guess that's progress, probably also costs more to repair than a dsg, that's also 'progress' for you!

 

Once (if) electric cars have caught on, the gearbox will probably be finished as electric motors have full torque at all speeds-I guess this is a discussion piece for another day......

Oh lordy. Drove to work yesterday using it as a manual and was genuinely surprised at how smooth and responsive it was, great stuff. Just been for a spin into town using manual mode again and found myself kangerooing around town like a good 'un! Just changed down into 2nd and moment eased off on throttle it dropped into first! Admittedly i was not going that fast but why the inconsistency, unless the fact it was cold and i just so happened to have hit minus paddle at same time computer did so it went down another gear? Also seemed to take a long time for gear changes, slower than when in Drive? When it's on form i truly love it, when it makes daft moves like that it annoys me!

That definitely sounds faulty. Mine refuses to use 1st for anything other than a standing start and even then it uses 2nd for that if possible. It hasn't changed down into first for anything other than being stationary.

Hmmm. Can't believe how good it was yesterday and then it does that, unless it was user error. Will see what it's like tonight but regardless it's booked in for check on Tuesday

Car is great apart from going down the gearbox, bloody thing. Not smooth, getting peeved off now. Roll on tuesday when i'm at garage probably getting fobbed off!! :(