My wifes 2010 170CR FL is due a service. She wants me to service it. It has just over 48000 miles on it.

Are there any weird complexities or specific tools I should know about before I start?

Any part numbers for filters, sump plug etc??

Is there somewhere other than the dealers to get genuine filters etc??

What is it you are changing, just the oil?

 

Or the air/pollen/fuel filter?

 

There are several sources for genuine parts without using your local main dealer. A lot of people use TPS...

 

http://www.thetradepartsspecialists.co.uk/

 

Just my opinion, but by the time you've sourced 5 litres of oil (VW 507.00), filter, sump plug and filters and either waited for them to be delivered or taken the time to drive somewhere to buy them, got home, jacked up the car, removed the plastic undertray, dropped the oil, faffed about with the seals on the lid of the fuel filter housing, twisted your back getting into the footwell for the pollen filter, scrapped your knuckles, got wet and cold and missed the football I'd sooner stick £129 Skoda's way and let them do it, together with a full safety check, diagnostic check, recall / remedial check, wash and hoover and the all important stamp in the service book...

 

http://www.skoda.co.uk/owners/service-and-maintenance/national-pricing/servicing

Edited 18 January, 201412 yr by silver1011

Euro car parts, car parts for less,

http://www.vwspares.co.uk. I've used all these for my bora. Not serviced the skoda my self yet but I am looking at doing the front brakes and fuel filter my self and just paying £129 or less for it's next service. (+>£349 got cambelt and water pump. ).

Recently changed the rear discs, pads, air filter, fuel filter, pollen filter and oil + filter on the bora for less than £100 using a mix of the above sites. Worth it for the savings sometimes but I did use work time and there heated hangar.

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From this coming Wednesday till Friday TPS will have Quantum oil on offer, the long life stuff will be cheaper than the equivalent oil ECP currently have on offer.

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Do you need to be trade?

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Do you need to be trade?

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Depends on the branch - see the link in my SIG.

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Great thanks, I will ask them for prices next time.

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Already stripped, checked and rebuilt brakes and changed the air filter as it was filthy.

I have 3t jacks and axle stands and I change the oil and filter in my astravan every 5000 miles for under £30. Not fussed about book being stamped as experience has shown it makes no difference plus we will be keeping the VRS until it dies. If I do it myself, I know its done right and the sump plug threads aren't crossed or stripped by a spotty apprentice. I have had a few instances where dealers (not Skoda) have not serviced properly or damaged the vehicle or lost (binned) parts off it then denied all knowledge.

I take it servicing the VRS is straight forward or are there any things I need to be aware of??

Most time consuming part is taking the undertray off. Otherwise pretty straight forward. I bought my oil from euro when they had a deal on for castrol edge. Cost just under 40 quid for 5 litres (4l bottle and a 1l bottle). Got oe oil filter for tenner (tsi model). Less than half the cost the dealer would charge. Took less than an hour.

Is the undertray just held on with screws?

Is there a panel you can take off or is it the whole tray you need to remove?

The tray under my van has a panel that just has a few screws on it. I take them all out but one and pivot it round out of the way to get into the sump. Makes it easy to put it back on as its already help up in place.

On my petrol vrs you have to remove the full cover,its held on with a combination of torx & normal bolts.

Yes, its screws and the whole thing has to come. If you have a 4x4 or a Scout then there are some bolts and sheet of armour plating is feckin heavy.

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What is it you are changing, just the oil?

 

Or the air/pollen/fuel filter?

 

There are several sources for genuine parts without using your local main dealer. A lot of people use TPS...

 

http://www.thetradepartsspecialists.co.uk/

 

Just my opinion, but by the time you've sourced 5 litres of oil (VW 507.00), filter, sump plug and filters and either waited for them to be delivered or taken the time to drive somewhere to buy them, got home, jacked up the car, removed the plastic undertray, dropped the oil, faffed about with the seals on the lid of the fuel filter housing, twisted your back getting into the footwell for the pollen filter, scrapped your knuckles, got wet and cold and missed the football I'd sooner stick £129 Skoda's way and let them do it, together with a full safety check, diagnostic check, recall / remedial check, wash and hoover and the all important stamp in the service book...

 

http://www.skoda.co.uk/owners/service-and-maintenance/national-pricing/servicing

 Doesnt look like Skoda do the fuel filter in that £129 service you are quoting

Doesnt look like Skoda do the fuel filter in that £129 service you are quoting

air filter and pollen filter are extra as well. Essentially just an oil change. I have vcds so can do the diagnostic check myself. A lot of dealers don't even take the undertray off now either. ...suck the oil out through the disptick. The major service at £249 is even more of a rip off as most of it is additional checks and if the parts need changed you have to pay extra. I did the major service on mine (tsi model) for well under half the cost and that included all the filters and spark plugs which they would have charged more for!

Are there any weird complexities or specific tools I should know about before I start?

 

I assume the CR has the same oil filter housing as the PD, in which case a 32mm oil filter socket will make removal much easier.......it's too easy to damage the housing trying to remove it any other way. 

 

As you mention, do replace the sump plug. The pollen filter is located in the passenger foot well, and the first time I did it I found it surprisingly tricky.....certainly fiddler than most I have done.

 

As for genuine filters......just buy Mann. That is what VAG rebox and sell as genuine filters.......I bought a genuine VAG oil filter last time and felt like a true ass when I read "Mann" on the actual filter....especially as the mann filter was 25% cheaper.    

The fuel filter housing on mine is made by UFI, I assume the filter element is too. Also on ekta one of the filters (pollen or air) is actually listed as hengst, so I don't think they are all Mann.

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I've done both I've used Skoda and myself through TPS, Euro Car Parts and CP4L and I can honestly say with two kids, limited knowledge and peace of mind id leave it to Skoda now, yes you save a few quid but it's a right old faff when the dealer will do it for £129 or £249 for a major service.

Think most of the filters fitted as OE are either Hengst or Mann + Hummel.

 

Each to their own, I like to put a little of my own effort in with things than line main dealers pockets.

 

Having said that ! I do get my car serviced at a local independant garage that i trust purely for the service history (to get my book

 

stamped!),and he will change oil (uses Quantum), oil filter, air filter, fuel filter, pollen filter does a full inspection service (i.e. takes all

 

wheels off and cleans brakes etc), checks everything and tops up where needed for £135.

 

As stated with Skoda for £129 you just getting an oil change really (which as stated most dont even drop oil out of the sump anymore),

 

and a quick flash with their equivalent of VCDS. the only filter it says they will replace is the pollen filter and it even says 'only replaced

 

if required'

 

What you have to think about is how long you are going to keep the car and when you do sell it / part ex it will it increase the value

 

greatly paying premium for a Skoda stamp in the book? 

Edited 19 January, 201412 yr by Lewwy

I have a 32mm socket as its the same for the oil filter housing on my astravan.

What about the gear oil? Is it worth changing it while the engine tray is off? What oil does it need and is there a preffered one like Fuchs etc? How much does it take (6spd manual) ?

 Doesnt look like Skoda do the fuel filter in that £129 service you are quoting

 

No, it's not, to get the fuel and air filter you need to pay £249 for the major service.

 

As this is all you get for the extra £120 it just goes to show how much of a rip off the variable / major service is.

 

This is why even though my car is on variable I only ever get the fixed (£129) service and pay them an extra £50 for them to replace the fuel filter as an extra. The air filter is a really, really easy DIY so I do this myself.

air filter and pollen filter are extra as well. Essentially just an oil change.

 

The pollen filter is included. Some dealers try and avoid fitting it by using the "only when required excuse" but as long as you ask them when booking it in they'll do it every time, or at least my local dealer does.

Is this the gear oil I need (2010 FL CR 170 manual 6spd)???

How much do I need???

http://www.opieoils.co.uk/p-981-fuchs-titan-sintofluid-sae-75w-80-synthetic-manual-transmission-fluid.aspx

Edited 19 January, 201412 yr by FatblokeVRS

Changing the gearbox oil on a 2010 car might be slight overkill, but if you really do want to change it I'd strongly suggest only using VAG oil. I've read many posts about poor/sticky gear changing when people use non VAG oil.

 

However for the 6 speed transmission the VAG oil is not cheap.....over £20/litre I think and you'll need a few litres (not sure how much exactly). Part number for the 6 speed oil is G052171A2  

Changing the gearbox oil on a 2010 car might be slight overkill, but if you really do want to change it I'd strongly suggest only using VAG oil. I've read many posts about poor/sticky gear changing when people use non VAG oil.

 

However for the 6 speed transmission the VAG oil is not cheap.....over £20/litre I think and you'll need a few litres (not sure how much exactly). Part number for the 6 speed oil is G052171A2  

 

I have changed the gearbox oil when I had my 6 speed Bora Sport, and it is the most disgusting smelly stuff i have encountered, be careful with it if you do the change.

 

I did it on a 4 poster ramp with car 6ft in the air and my mate standing on the ramp we made a feed pipe out of some pnematic pipe and cut a hole into the lid

of the bottle of gbox oil, and gravity fed it into the gearbox with me underneath the car. Messy job, smelly job and to be honest the gearbox felt no different.

 

I used Fuchs oil (which was slightly cheaper than the VW oil), but i think may possibly be the oil that is used by VW anyway.

Looks like VAG oil it is then. I will look and see how easy it is to do change. I take it there is a drain and fill level plug on them? Some Vauxhalls don't have as they are filled for life.

I did see a couple of posts saying the same about the VAG oil. I used Fuchs Sintofluid in my astravan as the Vauxhall m32 gearboxes are made of cheese and can fail quite often. Seemingly Vauxhall put power steering fluid in them at the factory. Not had any probs so far with the Fuchs in the van.

Cheers for the info guys.