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Had a near miss with the rear tyre on my vrs today the tms system lit up so pulled over and a big gash in the tyre there are lots of cracks on both rears only 2 dunlops with 30k on them......crap tyres. So put spare on and jobs a goodun.

My question is with the tms system is there anything the tyre place needs to do differently when replacing the tyres. Im gonna get both rears done i dont want true blow out on the motorway.

Nothing special to be done, you juat need to hold the reset button, to "calibrate" it for the new tyres.
 

Im sure someone will be along to explain how the sensors work!

 

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Also, I would say that 30k  is a fair distanence for a set of tyres!

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Good distance to be fair but they should cracking this bad especially for a premium make.

I know about the reseting its how the sensors work is there anything on the rim that the tyre company needs to do.

The sensors is that for the ABS, so when the tyres are a different circumference of tyres, that is picked up on.

 

30,000 miles on a pair of Sport Maxx is hardly crap tyres.

Cracking must have been missed when tyres were inspected at Servicing.

 

I had a pair of original ones with 14,000 miles on them that were through on the inner walls because they had been run at too low a pressure.

not by me.

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I know the milage is good and they both still have over 3mm left. But my disappointment is where an expensive tyre a little over 2 years old has cracks which has causedfailure. If it had blown out on the motorway it could of been a whole different experience.

Also can you buy the replacement plactic rear sill bodywork stickers? Low and behold the jack slipped luckly cause no real damage just a slight mark on the clear plastic protector which just needs to be replaced.

Can someone explain how the system works? I haven't checked my pressures at all as I was under the impression it would tell me if I had lost any pressure. Do you simply check as normal or do you also press the button after checking?

Less expensive now then they were 2 years ago.

 

You can buy anything if it comes on a car orginaly.

If you set the tyres wrong them press the TPMS re-set then its happy at what you set.

 

You fit new tyres, or Winter tyres etc, or you reset your tyre Pressure, and then you Re-set the TPMS.  

 

You can also press the button to check it is working.

 

If it does not pick up on a tyre being a different Rolling Radius/Circumference it will not warn you.

 

Owners Manuals tell you the correct stuff in case i am talking rubbish, (page 142)

often i am.

I hated the dunlops, (got rid at 1,000 miles due to my new car being SO bad on handling I thought it was broken, CURED by putting my old wheels and tyres on [maxxis Z1's] (from a 50k vRS) ) and for them to FAIL at 30k is ridiculous..... I would complain to the manufacturer .... the vRS isn't even old enough at the EARLIEST version for a tyre to fail through age.

They will easily know when checking if they failed through age, or through possibly being run at too low a pressure at some point.

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Tell me about it im thhis one has failed it was way. Tomorrow im gonna change them both it seems that it will be only a matter of time before the other fails. Im currently running avon zz5s on the front so i thougjt id put another set on the rear. 150 a pair fitted. Do you a better recomendation for the rear bearing in mind ive got the avons one the front.

again, I know you dont like (George) the TPM... but how can they have been run at too low a pressure, unless someone SET it at that?

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Prob too low on pressure then when i bought the car and check the pressures the rears where at 18 psi and 22 psi with fronts at 30 psi and 40 psi.

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God nows how long the rears where at low

Sharkrider,  i have never said i do not like the TPMS, just that it is what it is,  basic.  Others tell Tyre Temperatures and the pressure.

 

But which ever type, they need understood and User Imput,  ie Pressures Set, and Re-set the TPMS if the type that needs set,

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What i do not like is how some people do not check or know their tyre pressures, and many think there is no need to,

they were told the car had a TPMS.

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With yhe milage i do i check weeky only takes a couple of mins. Whats your advice on new rears.

Wow! 30k out of a set of tyres on a vrs, you should have canvas showing by 10k.... No?!

8,000 -10,000 miles was usual with the early cars,  maybe still now with some, they were usually well gone when sold as Ex Demos @ between 3 - 4,000 miles

so second owner maybe runs them for 6-12 months.

Then replaces.

 

But that was the Fronts that had never been changed front to back,

and often the original tyres on the rear then do over 20-30,000 miles.

& if run at  too low a pressure because someone relies on the TPMS, they can fail.

 

This Thread is an example of that. !!!   Worth anyone checking the inner side wall on high mile rear tyres.

Only had the TPMS warning come on once during normal driving (i.e. not after a tyre change) and that was after a high speed heavy braking manoeuvre on the motorway.  Can only assume the heavy braking squashed the tyres enough to trigger the "difference" warning level.  Checked pressures as soon as was able to (a few miles luckily) and all bang on.  Not happened since..

Can someone explain how the system works? I haven't checked my pressures at all as I was under the impression it would tell me if I had lost any pressure. Do you simply check as normal or do you also press the button after checking?

Lots of info on the web, mostly American, but this link from National Tyre might help

 http://www.national.co.uk/tyre-pressure-monitoring.aspx

That link shows "proper" TPMS sensors which actually measure the pressure in the tyre by means of an "intelligent" valve.  The Fabia system isn't that advanced and just uses the difference in wheel speed for a flat/low pressure tyre to flag up a problem.

I would say that 30000 miles out of tyres is a lot, but they shouldn't be cracking on the sidewall - that could be down to them having been low pressure (or even flat) for long periods, then pumped up and away you go - but even so, at the age of a VRS, this still shouldn't happen.

 

It's worth getting a check on the tyre code on the sidewall to establish how old the tyres actually are - had they been sat in a depot for 5 years before ending up on your car.

 

At 30000 miles, I'd expect low tread, maybe obvious wear, but not perished sidewalls.

 

As you say, you check regularly because of mileage, so why did one fail so quick and the other display such wear too?

#post 13.

 

when he got the car, the rears were at 18 & 22 psi.  and the fronts at 30 & 40 psi.

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Got the new tyres and all is good...........used national tyres but i ended up putting all the nut covers and setting the pressures my self. They reckon the tyre failed due to the pervious owner not keeping his eye on the pressures. The date stamped on the failed tyre was 2011 so not old at all.

Note to all check your tyre pressures regularly.

10psi under makes it do that? I'd have thought it would have felt squishy before, even though VRS/Monte 17s are really low pro on sidewalls.

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