Hi guys

Looking to buy a 2.0 tdi 170 Elegance dsg with 48k on the clock, need some advice on what to check for and routine work that should have been done or will need doing soon, eg cambelt etc.

Thanks in advance.

How old is the car?

Just over 4 years old.

At 48K it should have had a DSG oil and filter change - due at 40K and a sign of proper maintenance.

Hi guys

Looking to buy a 2.0 tdi 170 Elegance dsg with 48k on the clock, need some advice on what to check for and routine work that should have been done or will need doing soon, eg cambelt etc.

Thanks in advance.

 

Timing belt is due at around 110,000 miles on the 170 TDI CR so you should be good for a while with that.  I had nearly 80,000 miles (125K KMs) on a three year old 170.  The only issue was an EGR valve that was replaced which is not uncommon.  Other than that nothing out of the ordinary. Most importantly does it have a full Skoda service history?

I don't know about the DSG service requirements, so below is for a manual.

 

With that mileage for that age of car, I've assumed that it would have been on the annual service regime, rather than variable, and would have been serviced at Skoda main dealer.  Prices shown below are the max you should pay for a dealer that has adopted the Skoda national pricing scheme.

 

In addition to the standard minor (£129) and major (£249) service routines, it should also have:

- had cambelt and water pump changed at year 4 service, £449 (£100 of which is for water pump);

- had brake fluid changed at year 3 service (then due every 2 years thereafter), £45;

- ideally, had air-con regas service every 2 years, £69.

 

It could be that the year 4 service items have already been done, in which case your next service would be a year 5 minor service + brake fluid change = £129 + £45.

 

If year 4 hasn't been done, then you will be due the year 4 major service + cambelt + aircon service = £249 + £449 + £69.

 

Plus whatever is required for the DSG, plus MOT cost @ £39.

Thanks for that.

Think it does have full Skoda history, what are the signs of a failing EGR valve? Cost?

Slightly confused re cambelt, 4 years or 110k?

Slightly confused re cambelt, 4 years or 110k?

Sorry should have clarified its 110k miles or every four years (that's what Skoda recommend anyway).  Re the EGR valve I got it covered under warranty but the cost was listed at around €750eur including labour (£500stg+) but that was a main dealer.  As its exhaust related the engine management light (EPC) is the only sign really.  If its an elegance model and presumably has bi-xenons (which are brilliant by the way) just remember that the bulbs are more expensive to replace (could be over £100 each) and with average driving will generally need to be replaced after 4/5 years.  The headlight units themselves are also very expensive to replace so make sure there is no cracking or damage done and also that the adaptive system works ok.

Have checked service record, it's on the long life plan, every 2 years so next one due in about 6 months, sounds like it will be a big one,DSG, timing belt + full service, brakes etc better allow for this in negotiations!

So, is it 3.5 years old? Is the car at a Skoda main dealer?

No, private sale.

How can I tell if it is a cr170 apposed to a pd 170? Its a Dec 09 59 plate.

How can I tell if it is a cr170 apposed to a pd 170? Its a Dec 09 59 plate.

 

This is the CR engine cover:

 

The PD has quite a big push when accelerating, the CR however is quite linear and flat (feels slow) the CR is also MUCH quieter than the PD

(I am not sure if the 170PD was ever fitted to the Superb anyway)

The cam belt is also NOT covered under any service, it’s an additional item that has to be requested and paid for.

On the CR the engine cover has the fake cylinder slats / grooves angled to the left as you loot at it, on the PD they run straight towards the front bumper. 

 

Regarding cam belt / water pump change, yesterday I spoke to a Skoda main dealer here and they said that work is due at 180,000Km's or 111,000 miles with NO time limit. This seems to be an ongoing argument with lot's of differing opinions. Many more knowledgeable contributors on this forum maintain that VW use the 4 year time frame as a revenue grabbing exercise ...  (Now in fetal position waiting to be kicked)

 

Best of luck with the new car mate,

 

Rob

On the CR the engine cover has the fake cylinder slats / grooves angled to the left as you loot at it, on the PD they run straight towards the front bumper. 

 

Regarding cam belt / water pump change, yesterday I spoke to a Skoda main dealer here and they said that work is due at 180,000Km's or 111,000 miles with NO time limit. This seems to be an ongoing argument with lot's of differing opinions. Many more knowledgeable contributors on this forum maintain that VW use the 4 year time frame as a revenue grabbing exercise ...  (Now in fetal position waiting to be kicked)

 

Best of luck with the new car mate,

 

Rob

 

 

The 4 years interval is indeed only in the UK... go figure.

 

However it is an expensive gamble not to do it when recommended, which is exactly what VAG are relying on.

...Seems pretty obvious that VW are having a go with this alright. When I spoke to the dealer here, which happens to be a VW/Skoda/Audi main dealer, I specifically asked about a time limit. I gave the service dept. the chassis number and they came back with the info, no time limit just 180,000 KM's (everything's in Km's here in Ireland now because we're Europeans .... apparently)

 

Robbo 

Cheers guys, the deal is done, will post some pics soon, + probably many more questions!