Hi all posted a few times with issues for this car. and received some great answers....Thanks to all those members for advice.

 

So yesterday i thought i would have a look at changing the oil ...bought all needed items jacked car up. jack stands on

 

located sump plug............

 

WTF!!! it is covered in clear sealant!

 

not just the nut but over half the sump.

 

is this somebody being over cautious with making sure the plug stays put?

could the (probably reused) nut have threaded?

surely the whole sump cannot be sealed with this stuff?

 

really worried about scraping this off to get to the nut then new nut might not fit.... topped up oil and no leaks but really wanted to do full change with new filter.

 

greatly appreciate any help ..cheers

 

will follow up with photo later if it helps.

 

 

 

 

Photo's would be good, sounds like someone has bodged a leaky sump. Worst case scenario you will need a new sump gasket but that's not an expensive or difficult job. As long as there is no dirt in the sump thread or on the new sump plug there should be no leaks.

Sounds like there is no thread left in the sump so the person who last owned it has sealed it all up. A common issue if they have been over tightened. Can buy a replacement sump for the car and change it over

you could buy a sump or buy a v-coil kit and repair the thread with a steel voil. Both options require the sump to be removed. I'd also recommend a tap system with a plug. takes for ever to drain but it's cleaner and you don't need to bother with possible plug issues later on (once the thread is repaired/replaced).

Sounds like some monkey has borked the thread in the sump. Easy done if you have fists of ham and arms like Garth!

 

Mate of mine bought his last Pug and when he looked there was a spark plug RTV'd into the sump plug thread LOL

 

Your best bet is to get a new sump lined up with a gen new sump plug and change it over. Gives you a fresh start with a mint sump!

The plug is easy to put in wrong in these engines, as it needs to go in on a slight angle, not straight in,which 99% of sump plugs do

thanks for all the responses ...looks like a new sump when The money becomes available :(

 

 

is there no sort of self threading plug available?

 

was also looking at this to save the same thing happening again

 

http://quickvalve.co.uk/

 

spoke to a friend of mine who said when this happened to him (threaded sump) he just PTFE taped the plug ?!

 

guessing that wouldnt be a long term fix though

 

just have to hold of on oil and filter change and top up when necessary for now ..

 

cheers

Ebay ... 25 quid delivered for new sump. With exact same castings as original. Better than 90 quid or more

Just use the propper engine sealant. Ford stuff is the exact same but about 12 quid cheaper.

I ptfe taped my suml for few hundred miles and was ok.

ermmm. I didnt say it but you would always drop oil over night and leave drain. Theb clean off oil around pkug hole theb aply ptfe tape. And sealant on the plug . Leave it set 3/4 hours and then add oil. ..

I didnt say it haha

hi no rain today

 

so photos are done.

 

looking at the sump and looking on ebay as suggested they look a completely different shape to this one?

 

 

Edited 29 March, 201412 yr by polecat1982

Os that the petrol version?

I can just make out the part number on the bottom of your sump, which appears to be: 032103603 AB

 

Like this one here....

 

Edited 30 March, 201412 yr by TMB

Hello polecat1982,

 

Well you have got one very sick sump pan.

 

Do a good job get a new sump pan with new sump plug, and gasket.

Ensure old gasket completely removed with surfaces all nice and shiny.

Use a good sealant with gasket, (pan to engine block) with fresh oil, new oil filter.

 

Sit back and say that was a job well done, with loads of job satisfaction, give yourself a pat on-the-back..LOL 

I'm not convinced that there is a gasket as such, so don't be surprised if you can not buy one, sealant will be an "instant gasket" I think. 

 

Also, I'm sure that I've read that these brass drain taps can bring with them as many problems as they do away with - I can understand their use with a vintage car with maybe at least half a meter clearance under the engine which would probably already be fitted with a brass drain plug, but not so much with modern low slung engines.

 

Not over tightening or using a torque wrench if you can't gauge "tightness" will be adequate, also, I tend to check the condition of new plugs and tidy up the threads as a lot of these plugs do seem to get damaged in storage, ie thrown around maybe - and that will damage the aluminium sump threads even at correct torque settings - finally, these plugs should be screwed in fully by hand, then nipped up with a ring spanner or socket, if you can't screw them in fully by hand, then that is the time to find out what is going wrong - only a fool/mug/idiot will grab a spanner to sort that out!

Edited 30 March, 201412 yr by rum4mo