hello all, I'm needing to respray my whole car as some bugger has keyed me both sides all the way and i have the odd dent here and there, i have worked for Volkswagen before now in the bodyshop and know how to use filler and that technique just wondering if anyone recommends a paint etc i will be using spray cans as i can't afford a respray by a garage adjust want the car looking good again 

 

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Any rattle can job over a large area isn't going to be a very good finish IMO.

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Any rattle can job over a large area isn't going to be a very good finish IMO.

what is i was to get an air compressor?? would that be a better choice obviously need a UV light to help the paint dry

And an enclosed area I'm guessing. The breeze can blow all manner of grit etc on to the newly painted surface

As above, you'll never get even close to a good finish with spray cans I'm afraid. I dare say it would look better with the key marks still there!

 

If you're serious about doing it yourself, then I'm afraid you'd need to invest in a few bits and bobs. At the least you'll need a half decent air compressor that can supply a consistent amount of air pressure. A spray gun will be needed - HVLP is the way to go these days to avoid unnecessary paint wastage and overspray, plus they operate at lower pressures than older guns. As above, you'll also need somewhere indoors that is as dust free as possible and free from the outside elements. If it is dusty then you'd need to clean it out properly before hand, let the remainder settle and then wet the floor before you start. You would need the ability to at least heat the enclosure you're working in quite a bit. The professionals spray in a highly filtered spray booth which also acts as an oven to bake the paint hard.

 

Technique with spray guns is far more difficult than using spray cans. Depending on the type of paint you are using (solid or metallic), the technique needs to be very smooth and overlapping evenly - guys who do this for a living didn't do this instinctively when they started I'm afraid. It's takes time and experience to learn, and it's difficult to do to a good standard! Even setting up your spray gun so that your pattern is spot on takes a bit of experience and know how.

 

Then you may have issues with regards to paint. A lot of paint these days is water based, and applications are different again to what was always used (2-pack). Not to mention paint (like everything else) is expensive these days. If you went 2-pack, then you need to get the data sheet and find out the mixture ratio of thinners, paint, lacquer and hardener - your spray gun must be properly cleaned quickly at the end too.

 

Once the job is done and the paint hardened, you will want to use a decent machine polisher and compound to get the finish spot on too.

 

 

My honest advice is don't bother or pay someone to do it. It may cost you not far off as much just to get all the equipment and rent somewhere if you needed to!!

Better off spending the money on a surveillance system a solid baseball bat and a balaclava. Just in case the brainless **** comes back to do it again.

Hahaha +1 on the above!

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Haven't read all the comments so forgive me if I've missed somthing.

I had one of my old cars painted in a garage with a compressor by a decent spray painter, even then I want that happy with the outcome but that's what you get for £50 haha

It was silver as well so a bad colour to paint. Black is by far the best one to match.

I've seen people advertising a matt white wrap for around the £300-400 mark. Might be worth doing that as it will look better than a poor paint job. If mine needed paint work I'd go for a wrap

As above, you'll never get even close to a good finish with spray cans I'm afraid. I dare say it would look better with the key marks still there!

 

If you're serious about doing it yourself, then I'm afraid you'd need to invest in a few bits and bobs. At the least you'll need a half decent air compressor that can supply a consistent amount of air pressure. A spray gun will be needed - HVLP is the way to go these days to avoid unnecessary paint wastage and overspray, plus they operate at lower pressures than older guns. As above, you'll also need somewhere indoors that is as dust free as possible and free from the outside elements. If it is dusty then you'd need to clean it out properly before hand, let the remainder settle and then wet the floor before you start. You would need the ability to at least heat the enclosure you're working in quite a bit. The professionals spray in a highly filtered spray booth which also acts as an oven to bake the paint hard.

 

Technique with spray guns is far more difficult than using spray cans. Depending on the type of paint you are using (solid or metallic), the technique needs to be very smooth and overlapping evenly - guys who do this for a living didn't do this instinctively when they started I'm afraid. It's takes time and experience to learn, and it's difficult to do to a good standard! Even setting up your spray gun so that your pattern is spot on takes a bit of experience and know how.

 

Then you may have issues with regards to paint. A lot of paint these days is water based, and applications are different again to what was always used (2-pack). Not to mention paint (like everything else) is expensive these days. If you went 2-pack, then you need to get the data sheet and find out the mixture ratio of thinners, paint, lacquer and hardener - your spray gun must be properly cleaned quickly at the end too.

 

Once the job is done and the paint hardened, you will want to use a decent machine polisher and compound to get the finish spot on too.

 

 

My honest advice is don't bother or pay someone to do it. It may cost you not far off as much just to get all the equipment and rent somewhere if you needed to!!

thanks for the advice, it would be my dad who sprays it he has been after an air compressor for ages he is like a big kid

 

Better off spending the money on a surveillance system a solid baseball bat and a balaclava. Just in case the brainless **** comes back to do it again.

i already have a CCTV system fitted just my luck the kettle tripped the electric the other night when it happened might just have to invest in one of the rottweiler security systems where they run off pedigree complete

I've seen people advertising a matt white wrap for around the £300-400 mark. Might be worth doing that as it will look better than a poor paint job. If mine needed paint work I'd go for a wrap

this has interested me allot, due to the fact i do not need to inform the DVLA about it as they see it as reversible and not a colour change all i would need to do is tell my insurance plus having a completely different colour sounds good but which colour to choose haha 

I've not looked into wraps that deep but I'm sure a wrap is around the £1000 mark but as I say I've seen offers on matte white and matte black I think for £300-400. If it had been gloss white I was going to get it done

It needs piccies. I'd say you could try to DIY fill the scrapes in. A tough masking tape either side of the scrapes will give enough height that you don't scrape the surrounding paint when sanding it back. Finished effect won't be perfect but IMO a lot better than a botched spray job.

 

DIYing all you can do is break it down to a panel or a scrape at a time and develop your technique.

It needs piccies. I'd say you could try to DIY fill the scrapes in. A tough masking tape either side of the scrapes will give enough height that you don't scrape the surrounding paint when sanding it back. Finished effect won't be perfect but IMO a lot better than a botched spray job.

 

DIYing all you can do is break it down to a panel or a scrape at a time and develop your technique.

its all over though, the previous owner had gone over all the chips and scratches in a different colour and it looks like nail varnish  :no:  its close's to the orange i have but quite noticable

 

just looking at wraps and theres a company close to me in manchester looks quite good but abit pricey

 

 http://www.carwrapmanchester.com/index.html

 

in thinking a two tone colour body different to the roof or something i used to like on my xbox on Grand theft auto the bonnet roof and boot all a different colour but it might look abit boy racer