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100k miles in a Greenline 1.6tdi Estate

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It's been a while since I've posted, however, my Superb GL has recently passed the 100,000 mile barrier in 33 months.

Having previously driven 95,000 miles in a remapped 1.9Tdi, I was hesitant about trying the 1.6Tdi common rail engine. Initially, it took some getting used to; the low down torque of the PD 1.9Tdi being absent. You have to use more revs and be guided by the gear change indicator.

My economy figures have improved; 57.18mpg in the 1.9Tdi to 64.49mpg in the 1.6Tdi. This results in a fairly easy achievable 800+ mile range, with 900 miles possible when driven with more care.

The addition of a six speed gearbox to the current GL should result in quieter cruising, however, my five speed 1.6Tdi is still quieter than than old 1.9Tdi.

During the past 100k miles, nothing has broken or rattled, which is testament to the build quality. The car has been serviced on a variable basis approximately every 18,500-19,500 miles by my local main dealer, Startin Skoda. The oil consumption has been minimal, especially when compared a gained my previous 1.9Tdi. Typically, I might top up with 250-300ml between servicing, whereas, the 1.9Tdi consumed up to 1,000ml per 10,000 miles,

The positive points are summarised below:

1) Unrivalled passenger and luggage space

2) In SE trim, the level of standard equipment is good

3) The estate doesn't look out of place when parked next to more expensive machinery

4) Extremely low tyre wear (first replacement set still in use)

5) Boot well accepts a full sized spare wheel (on the basis that you are using 16" wheels)

6) Impressive average economy of 64.49mpg

What would I improve? The factory upgrade to a six speed 'box is welcomed. If I was keeping the car for longer, I'd definitely have the ECU remapped. I would have done this already, we're it not for the fact that it took a couple of years for the remapped to be able to access the encrypted ECU. It's a pity, Skoda doesn't offer a higher output 1.6Tdi.

Would I choose another Superb? Yes, however, the company I work for has recently changed it's leasing provider and decided to delete Skoda (and VW) from the list of available marques. Apparently, we'll be able to choose only a BMW, Mercedes or Audi. In reality, this means I'll be forced to choose something much smaller and with less standard equipment. I can't wait!

That is very impressive mpg and tyre wear.

Out of curiosity what is your main type of driving and what sort of speeds do you go at?

More praise for the 1.6. Must admit I've been a doubter about this engine, having test driven it before settling for the 140 2.0l but it seems like a great pairing with the Superb if driven correctly with no end if positive feedback on here, and who could argue with nearly 65mpg over 100k.

Bad news about the next offering. It'll be a nightmare going from a good spec Superb to a poverty spec A3 or equivalent Merc/Beemer.

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Its good to hear how good this car is. I intend to keep mine for many years to come, or until it is destroyed by my kids! i am currently averaging around 58mpg but have had more on long runs bordering on the 70mpg mark. It is improving as the engine is starting to open up a bit.

I was also a bit concerned about going from a 2.0 vRS diesel to a bigger car with a smaller engine. However I soon found out that I didn't need to worry and find the engine fine for my use. It even has a bit of poke when you floor it, although I do find it does suffer from a bit of turbo lag. I just love the space of the combi, and on a run to the dump recently managed to fit an entire bathroom suite that I had ripped out in the back, bath included. Another bonus point I have found is the rear legroom. For those of us with kids, the vast legroom stops them kicking the back of your seat.

I can't say there is much I would want to change. Like has been said the addition of the 6 speed box would be welcome, but I cant say I miss it particularly and the car cruises on the motorway quite quietly. I would have liked a higher trim level but the offer I was given on my car was too good to refuse.

That is very impressive mpg and tyre wear.

Out of curiosity what is your main type of driving and what sort of speeds do you go at?

 

Same question from me, I am too averaging a little over 30,000 miles a year in my 2.0 CR140.

 

My average MPG is pretty much bang on 50 mpg, but then I spend almost all of the time closer to 80mph than 70mph.

1.6CR is very good... when it works, not surprised seeing this report, especially for low speed motorway driving.  Have not had any problems with my Roomster's 1.6CR since engine block replacement (and then injector pipes replacement)  for the last 2 months / 1300 miles, so touch wood perhaps I can now enjoy similar experience to the one posted.

 

I agree it is a shame Skoda does not have ca 125bhp version or similar, would be perfect for motorway use. The lower compression / low end torque of 1.6 (when compared to earlier 1.9) do not bother, as the 1.6 is much smoother in return. Though it did catch me when loading the Roomie up the Eurotunnel shuttle 2 weeks ago, I had to stop on the ramp to upper deck, and managed to stall the 1.6CR - twice. But it could be also a product of an on-off clutch, far less smooth than the axially controlled one in the 6spd gearboxes. Still, I guess VAG is firmly committed to keep the 1.6CR as a budget unit, so forget more power and better gearboxes...

 

If you are curious about 1.6CR's fuel consumption at speed, at 100mph-105mph the Popemobile uses about 8l/100km, or 35mpg-38mpg, Mk2 Superb will use ca 10% less at this speed on account of lower air drag. I know my Mk1 Superb 2.5TDI actually uses less fuel than the 1.6CR Roomster when travelling in the 90mph-120mph range.

Veloplus, You findings are similar to my twin door Greenline. I am averaging just over 65 mpg, my Conti tyres were going to last 60-65k until last week when I hit some debris and damaged both fronts.       There are a few things I wish were different, mainly the drivers seat, the drivers door armrest and have a heated front screen and a rear wash wipe, but its a reliable and cheap to run car that has loads of space. I doubt that the six speed version will have a noticeably different top gear, so can cope with the five.   My Skoda days may be coming to an end as well. I am being pushed into having a company car and can essentially have any car I want, so will start looking at options soon.

I have a Greenline FL Elegance which I've had since new last year as my company car. My previous four cars were all the 2.0 TDI, all 140bhp, in both manual and DSG, two Passat B5's, and Auid A6 and Passat CC DSG.

 

After getting used to the 1.6TDI I find it quite adequate performance wise and amazing fuel economy for such a large car - I along with many others have posted about the MPG here http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/316901-whats-best-mpg-youve-had/ I find the relaxed nature of the 1.6 makes me more relaxed as a driver so I get to where I'm going feeling far more relaxed, usually covering 150 miles plus when driving to customers each morning, and often several hundred miles a day in comfort. 

 

The six speed gearbox does give very relaxed motorway cruising doing only 1800rpm at 70mph. 

 

It has almost halved my BIK figures as my last Passat CC DSG had emissions of 158, now down to 113, plus as I have to pay for my own private mileage I am now in the lowest cost category.

 

A winning combination which ever way you look at it.

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That is very impressive mpg and tyre wear.Out of curiosity what is your main type of driving and what sort of speeds do you go at?

Admittedly, my driving mainly involves motorways and A-roads. On motorways, I tend to average 60-65mph, using cruise as much as possible.

Admittedly, my driving mainly involves motorways and A-roads. On motorways, I tend to average 60-65mph, using cruise as much as possible.

Thanks for the interesting posts about your GL. I'm at 60k miles on mine and still on original tyres. Out of curiosity, what about your brakes? I'm still on original discs and pads.

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Thanks for the interesting posts about your GL. I'm at 60k miles on mine and still on original tyres. Out of curiosity, what about your brakes? I'm still on original discs and pads.

My GL was supplied with Conti a Premium Contact 2E tyres. Although I think they're discontinued, they can still be found online. As our leasing company couldn't obtain the same tyre, I opted for Dunlop SP Sport Blue Response. Unfortunately, the Dunlop's didn't get off to a good start as one of them suffered a fatal sidewall gash due to a pothole situated on a roundabout.

The Dunlops are slightly more comfortable than the Conti's, with a faster turn-in due to the rounded profile, rather than the Conti's squarer profile. Personally, I prefer the steering feel from the Conti's. The Dunlop's are very grippy in the wet or dry, much as was the case with the Conti's, Lastly, I haven't noticed any discernible fuel savings over the Conti's.

When the Dunlop fronts are worn, I'll probably go back to Continental for the more predictable steering and stronger sidewalls.

In terms of discs and pads, I the original front and rear discs are still in use. I generally drive one-up and on motorways/A-roads where braking inputs are minimal. The front pads were changed around 80,000 miles.

Jules, at 60,000 miles your GL is perfect for a remap. I think this would give the car a useful extra 35bhp, as well as potentially benefitting the fuel economy. My last PD engined Superb was remapped by Performance Torque (near Wolverhampton) who I recommend highly. Alternatively, you could use Superchips who were one of the first to remap the VAG 1.6.Tdi engine. They have written an interesting review of a remapped Golf 1.6Tdi which should be essential reading.

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