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Upgrade to Columbus RNS510, so many VCDS errors!

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Hello (again) from Athens Greece,

I recently upgraded my pre-FL (7/2008) Skoda Octavia mk2 VRS with an RNS510 unit. (Part number 3T0 035 680 L, Hardware version 2014 H10, Software version 5270).

I opted for a skoda dealer to do the installation, because I did not want to mess with coding etc (the car was already going in for a full service).

Well...the shinny new LED RNS510 wreaked havoc and now I have many VCDS errors, mostly from the other control modules that they do not like the newcomer and do not want to talk to him, or to each other, like spoiled little children ;-)

Did a quick study to Ross tech, and found that the main culprit is the old CAN Gateway (and by saying old, I mean OLD, its the one in the Ross-Tech RNS510 how-to retrofit, that says "Replace only", the one and only 1K0 907 530 P with H16 0191).

So I am now looking to replace it with the one below.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Skoda-VW-OEM-CAN-BUS-GATEWAY-7N0907530AF-7N0907530R-7N0907530M-7N0907530-/221156459207

Please, if anyone know, will this work with my pre-FL (June 2008) Skoda Octavia mk2 VRS (BWA engine) ?

Is a skoda dealer usually qualified to do the exchange? Will I also need a new Climatronic panel (so to talk with the RNS510)? I have the dual clima one, with the two lcd screens.

 

Last but not least, I am expecting a Bluetooth module I want to install, 5K0035730F. Can it be installed prior to the CAN Gateway transplant and still work (basic functions, I will use it via Columbus, dont have Maxi Dot or multifunction steering wheel)? Should I install the Gateway first?

 

Lots of questions, any help appreciated and of course next time you are in Greece dear Skoda fans, drop me a line ;-)

 

Below my auto scan for your reference. Dont mind the busted light bulb, checked myself, not there! Light in panel switched of by itself!

 

Sunday,24,August,2014,15:35:35:30438
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator
VCDS Version: 12.12.2.0
Data version: 20140212


VIN: TMBEF21Z482108974   License Plate: STERGIOS
Mileage: 69990km-43489mi   Repair Order:



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Chassis Type: 1Z (1K0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 37 42 44 46 52 56 62 72

VIN: TMBEF21Z482108974   Mileage: 69990km/43489miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: Malfunction 0010
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: Not registered 0011
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
 
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Address 01: Engine        Labels: 06F-907-115-AXX.lbl
   Part No SW: 1Z0 907 115 D    HW: 8P0 907 115 B
   Component: 2.0l R4/4V TFSI     0010  
   Revision: 5BH16---    Serial number: SKZ7Z0G4561739
   Coding: 0203000318070060
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000
   VCID: 3668DA0441319BAE71B-8063

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0000 0000

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-F.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AC    HW: 1K0 907 379 AC
   Component: ESP FRONT MK60      0101  
   Revision: 00H11001    
   Coding: 0004738
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000
   VCID: 73EE231012C3CE86965-8026

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 1K0-907-044.lbl
   Part No SW: 1Z0 907 044 AB    HW: 1Z0 907 044 AB
   Component: ClimatronicPQ35 120 0600  
   Revision: 00120022    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 76E81A0401B1DBAEB1B-8023

1 Fault Found:
01317 - Control Module in Instrument Cluster (J285)
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent

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Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels: 3C0-937-049-30-H.lbl
   Part No SW: 3C0 937 049 AJ    HW: 3C0 937 049 AJ
   Component: Bordnetz-SG     H54 2202  
   Revision: 00H54000    Serial number: 00000005412693
   Coding: 01040E030004140040110D000000000000097F075C000000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000
   VCID: 71E2291868DFFC96649-8024

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1Z1 955 119 C  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer 151207 022  0601  
   Coding: 00055223
   Shop #: WSC 73430  

1 Fault Found:
01519 - Bulb for Back-Up Lights; Right (M17)
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 22
                    Mileage: 69934 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2005.09.13
                    Time: 31:63:63

             Freeze Frame:
                        ON
                    Voltage: 13.75 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF


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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 1K0-909-605.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 909 605 T    HW: 1K0 909 605 T
   Component: Q2 AIRBAG VW8   020 2300  
   Revision: 05020000    Serial number: 0038PD1NPAZE  
   Coding: 0020786
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000
   VCID: 3D7AC528640748F6B01-8068

   Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332MSME2E624D47N

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342MSME22122506Z

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 BF    HW: 1K0 953 549 BF
   Component: J0527           051 0100  
   Coding: 0000012
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000
   VCID: 77F6170006BBA2A6AAD-8022

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
   Part No SW: 1Z0 920 812 C    HW: 1Z0 920 812 C
   Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VD1 1610  
   Revision: V1610056    Serial number: SKZ7Z0G4561739
   Coding: 0003101
   Shop #: WSC 50036 645 177986
   VCID: 346CE00C574D89BE4FF-8061

1 Fault Found:
01299 - Diagnostic Interface for Data Bus (J533)
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 22
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2064.00.00
                    Time: 00:00:00


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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels: 1K0-907-530-V3.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 P    HW: 1K0 907 951
   Component: J533__Gateway   H16 0191  
   Revision:   H16       Serial number: 2000K07C1509AE
   Coding: E9807F060002021302
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 346CE00C574D89BE4FF-8061

1 Fault Found:
01044 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded
            000 - -
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 236
                    Mileage: 69902 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 11:58:45


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Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 1Z0 920 812 C    HW: 1Z0 920 812 C
   Component: IMMO            VD1 1610  
   Revision: V1610056    Serial number: SKZ7Z0G4561739
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 346CE00C574D89BE4FF-8061

No fault code found.

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Address 37: Navigation (J0506)       Labels: 1T0-035-680.clb
   Part No SW: 3T0 035 680 L    HW: 3T0 035 680 L
   Component: RNS-MID       H10 5270  
   Revision: AB001001    Serial number: SKZ6Z7M7086097
   Coding: 060004020400002110
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 3972D138B02F74D69C9-806C

5 Faults Found:
00857 - CD Changer Unit (R41)
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 39
                    Reset counter: 238
                    Mileage: 69896 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 11:58:55

01042 - Control Module; Not Coded
            000 - -
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 12
                    Reset counter: 238
                    Mileage: 69896 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 11:59:03

00856 - Radio Antenna
            007 - Short to Ground
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100111
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 9
                    Reset counter: 238
                    Mileage: 69928 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 17:21:40

00821 - Antenna 2 for Radio (R93)
            007 - Short to Ground
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100111
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 9
                    Reset counter: 238
                    Mileage: 69928 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 17:21:40

01523 - Microphone for Telephone (R38)
            011 - Open Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 12
                    Reset counter: 238
                    Mileage: 69902 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 11:59:03


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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels: 1K0-959-701-MIN3.lbl
   Part No SW: 1T0 959 701 D    HW: 1T0 959 701 D
   Component: Tuer-SG         006 1203  
   Coding: 0000244
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000
   VCID: 3874D43C4B256DDE637-806D

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-14x-44.clb
   Part No: 1K1 909 144 M
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.074 H08 1901  
   Shop #: WSC 73430 000 90108
   VCID: 356ADD085C3790B6781-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels: 1K0-959-433-MAX.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 433 BT    HW: 1K0 959 433 BT
   Component:    KSG PQ35 G2  020 0204  
   Revision: 00020000    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 80801A085283007F3F04850500084F01807CA0
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000
   VCID: 830EF3D0C2637E06065-80D6

   Subsystem 1 - Component:   Sounder n.mounted     

   Subsystem 2 - Component:       NGS n.mounted     

   Subsystem 3 - Component:      IRUE n.mounted     

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels: 1K0-959-702-MIN3.lbl
   Part No SW: 1T0 959 702 D    HW: 1T0 959 702 D
   Component: Tuer-SG         006 1203  
   Coding: 0000244
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000
   VCID: 3972D138702F74D69C9-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio (J0506)       Labels: 1T0-035-680.clb
   Part No SW: 3T0 035 680 L    HW: 3T0 035 680 L
   Component: RNS-MID       H10 5270  
   Revision: AB001001    Serial number: SKZ6Z7M7086097
   Coding: 060004020400002110
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 3972D138B02F74D69C9-806C

5 Faults Found:
00857 - CD Changer Unit (R41)
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 39
                    Reset counter: 238
                    Mileage: 69896 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 11:58:55

01042 - Control Module; Not Coded
            000 - -
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 12
                    Reset counter: 238
                    Mileage: 69896 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 11:59:03

00856 - Radio Antenna
            007 - Short to Ground
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100111
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 9
                    Reset counter: 238
                    Mileage: 69928 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 17:21:40

00821 - Antenna 2 for Radio (R93)
            007 - Short to Ground
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100111
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 9
                    Reset counter: 238
                    Mileage: 69928 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 17:21:40

01523 - Microphone for Telephone (R38)
            011 - Open Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 12
                    Reset counter: 238
                    Mileage: 69902 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 11:59:03


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Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels: 1K0-959-703-GEN3.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 703 J    HW: 1K0 959 703 J
   Component: Tuer-SG         006 1201  
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 1012544
   VCID: 3776D700463B62A66AD-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels: 1K0-959-704-GEN3.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 704 J    HW: 1K0 959 704 J
   Component: Tuer-SG         006 1201  
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 1012544
   VCID: 3874D43C4B256DDE637-806D

No fault code found.

End   ---------------------------------------------------------------------
 

 

 

At least some of those faults may be temporary as a result of disconnecting the old and reconnecting the new head unit. It also doesn't look like navigation has been ticked in the gateway menu. Also check the BAP box is unticked in the navigation coding.

I have the same gateway and read what you found. However, I didnt need to replace mine when I opted for a newer firmware on my rns510 and never got drain. Admittedly yours is a much newer unit but I don't think this is the problem. Ensure navigation is ticked and BAP is unticked, clear down errors and rescan and see what you have. Also you don't need to change the climatronic panel but the newer one does integrate better (and looks better in my opinion).

BT installation should also be fine with this gateway, it is for me.

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Thanks Adam, you gave me hope ;-)

 

Will check your suggestions and post back

 

Stergios!

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