You are not Factory ordering and nothing like £20,000.

A car specced to that price can be had for £17,500 or less.

But Finance & such is different matters,  but deals are available.   Maybe just not where you are looking.

 

There are cars at the Docks now, and Dealers are struggling to sell them,

there are bargains you just need to find who has them.

 

go on 

http://broadspeed.com

Ok, that's awesome . It's at just over £20k with every conceivable extra I can put on it. There must be one sitting around at this spec that I could get a decent deal on... Although its the APR that would sting me. May end up with the BE if the deals aren't great.

Just go into the dealer and see what vRS are sitting at the dock ready and waiting. Two minutes on their computer and they'll be able to tell you what's available nationally to call to their dealership. It'll be a new car and on the 0% APR and you should be able to negotiate a hefty discount on top :-)

Thanks for the heads up, I'll have a gander

Just go into the dealer and see what vRS are sitting at the dock ready and waiting. Two minutes on their computer and they'll be able to tell you what's available nationally to call to their dealership. It'll be a new car and on the 0% APR and you should be able to negotiate a hefty discount on top :-)

 

I did ask for a quote and they shoved APR on it lol. I'd quite like the vRS, but it all resides on what I can get I guess.

I did ask for a quote and they shoved APR on it lol. I'd quite like the vRS, but it all resides on what I can get I guess.

Let us know how you get on! :-)

Dealers are desperate to sell them. Obviously they are not going to be telling you that.

Just do not pay too much.

 

george

Maybe worth noting that a few people have had this standard 1.2 TSI 105's dyno'd and found they actually put out closer to 120bhp

Maybe worth noting that a few people have had this standard 1.2 TSI 105's dyno'd and found they actually put out closer to 120bhp

 

It certainly feels like more than 105, but the OP is now drooling over the thought of 180  

It certainly feels like more than 105, but the OP is now drooling over the thought of 180

Id have the 105 tsi myself.

But i wont go into the reasons why. I've said them before and vrs owners dont like it much hsha

& the CTHE 1.4 TSI on 99 ron around 190 ps. 

 

The figures quoted are a Minimum output and to suit Environments and altitudes & Temperatures not as favourable as a engine runs at in the UK.

To be honest, it boils down to the deal (servicing, warranty and 0%) and the spec/colour. vRS seems to offer everything I want in one package, but the hit is the mpg. The 1.2 felt ropey, but I'm going in for a second test drive to confirm . I have a budget and my local Skoda are working to meet that, I just don't think they are trying hard enough in certain areas lol.

If the vRS is a decent daily commuter, then I'm sold lol

Edited 21 October, 201411 yr by Tackyauto

If you get the vRS you will need to change your username. AwesomeAuto would be more appropriate lol

Haha well yes, I will request a username change

Is the vRS reliable? I've read bad things about the DSG and oil consumption... Engine cover was extended to 10 years to compensate but I don't want to be hit with labour charges if anything goes wrong lol

Is the vRS reliable? I've read bad things about the DSG and oil consumption... Engine cover was extended to 10 years to compensate but I don't want to be hit with labour charges if anything goes wrong lol

Read through some threads in the 'fabia 2' section mate

Read through some threads in the 'fabia 2' section mate

 

Had a read through some material and the main points have been issues with the DSG (oil consumption and engine replacement) but otherwise, all seems fine. Can anyone confirm these issues? The thread was centred around the recall in China, Australia etc.

Had a read through some material and the main points have been issues with the DSG (oil consumption and engine replacement) but otherwise, all seems fine. Can anyone confirm these issues? The thread was centred around the recall in China, Australia etc.

Pretty much, yes.

Im sure George will come over soon and tell you all the ins and outs (this is his territory haha) but they corrected a majority of the oil consumption issues when they did an engine up date. So the new ones should be better.

Youll be fine if you dont keep it out of warranty. Thats something i wouldnt do, especially if you're commuting every day and racking the miles up.

There arent many VRS's around with high mileage, and even fewer of these havent had an engine replacement.

There is no Recall in the UK on the DQ200 7 Speed Twin Dry Clutch DSG as fitted to many models of VW, Skoda, Seat & Audi vehicles.

There is a 'Service Campaign' since May where some DSG require the Oil changed from Synthetic to Mineral & a ECU Update.

This can be on DSG as fitted to 1.2 TSI Engines.

here is the New Zealand Service Campain Details and an idea of the Skoda Models that can be involved.

http://skoda.co.nz/news/dsg-service-campaign

*It is not only 2009-2011 as in NZ,  there are DSG in the UK from cars built in the past 2 years that have required 

Service Campaign Field Actions, as VWG Customer Services like to call them.

 

.................................................................

As to the 1.4 TSI Twincharger Issues.

Those are the ones from 2009 - late 2012,  1.4 TSI CAVE 132-136 kW as fitted to the Seat Ibiza Cupra, Skoda MK2 Fabia vRS, 

Mk5 VW Polo GTI & Audi A1 185 ps.

Lots of failures in the 3 years of production, the Engine is in Other VWG cars as well.

& in 2012 VW Revised the Engines and they are coded as CTHE, 

Same 1.4 TSI but different Components and Engine Management.

Some sold from Late 2012-2013 still had issues, and recently some Later 2013 ones are having issues.

 

That is why you need a Manufacturers Warranty & then an Extended Warranty.

But there are many more good early ones than bad, 

& the Newer Engines are much better.

 

It is just right for you if you want more 'Smiles per Miles', and lots of Fun for Much Cheapness'.

Running a Twincharger out of Warranty is a Lottery.

 

At least all the Issues are known, even though many Dealership Employees  will say it is an Internet Myth and Overblown,

& the VWG & Customer Services have never admitted issues or faults or Publicly acknowledge why 

there were and are failures.

VORSPRUNG DURCH TECHNIK

Say nothing, see nothing, say nothing, it never happened.

 

http://revotechnik.com/support/technical/14tsi-twincharger-engine-issues

Edited 22 October, 201411 yr by goneoffSKi

This really helped me, thanks guys! I know the sales people have little idea of the past issues (and like you say, would deny it anyway) but I am new to the DSG (my only other encounter was the Golf GTD and the Tiguan that had the DSG box (found it very hit and miss). To be honest, I am not put off by the DSG and, after test driving one, I'll push for a full term servicing and warranty on it (3 years). If I can get that, I will fall back on the 1.2 TSI (where this offer remains). Never in a rush to buy one, so despite them saying it'll be gone by the weekend (... and?), I'll take my time with this one.

 

I think that MPG isn't its strongest point, considering the output, but for the spec level and £35 increase in tax in comparison to the 1.2TSI, it appears to be worth looking into and seeing what they can throw my way. Skoda do unbeatable offers and I know a lot of this is based on wanting to shift old stock. This plays to my advantage, especially on a PCP.

Do you mean the fuel consumption of the 1.4 TSI vRS is not its strongest point?

 

That is its strong point compared to the other Warm / Hot hatches with 180 ps - 200 ps.

Petrol Automatic 5 Doors, Hatch or Estate that can do as low as 22 mph like all the rest, 

can do 40 + MPG Easily, and can do 50 + MPG if you want to.

 

You can do short journeys or spirited driving and still get an average of 35 ish MPG through 4 seasons.

That is something the other Warm /Hot Petrol hatches often struggle to achieve.

 

Have fun trying some cars out.

Maybe try a 7 speed Dry Clutch DSG, they are not the same on a petrol as some 6 Speeds,

or DSG on Diesels, & different creatures altogether as well on the Twincharger.

 

george

Edited 22 October, 201411 yr by goneoffSKi

Do you mean the fuel consumption of the 1.4 TSI vRS is not its strongest point?

 

That is its strong point compared to the other Warm / Hot hatches with 180 ps - 200 ps.

Petrol Automatic 5 Doors, Hatch or Estate that can do as low as 22 mph like all the rest, 

can do 40 + MPG Easily, and can do 50 + MPG if you want to.

 

You can do short journeys or spirited driving and still get an average of 35 ish MPG through 4 seasons.

That is something the other Warm /Hot Petrol hatches often struggle to achieve.

 

Have fun trying some cars out.

Maybe try a 7 speed Dry Clutch DSG, they are not the same on a petrol as some 6 Speeds,

or DSG on Diesels, & different creatures altogether as well on the Twincharger.

 

George

 

Dry Clutch? Is that the standard box on the vRS or are there others (2013/2014)?

 

It's certainly good for what it is, mpg wise, but its working out whether the drop in economy (for the power) will become an annoyance later on. My mazda has a filled tank range of 420 miles, and based on a 40-50 mile round trip (the computer calculates the drop in miles very strangely lol), I can make a full tank last 2 weeks (if I do nothing but commute to work). I'm expecting to get a week and a half (or less) out of the vRS, but would this actually be the case? I know traffic plays a part as much as throttle control and maintaining speed limits (or going below them) but being an automatic (and possibly having CC) this should be easier to manage that if it were to be a manual box?

 

This would be my very first automatic car, so response is a major thing for me too (the other DSGs seemed a bit sluggish at points, especially where accelerating from a stand-still is concerned).

All MK2 Fabia vRS are 7 Speed Twin Dry Clutch DQ200,  2010 - now.

 

The difference is the 2010- 2012 CAVE engine,  and then the 2012 - now DSG are mapped differently and change gears at different change points (rpm).

 

The Engines have different maps, CAVE or CTHE, and the DSG feels different.

I like the Early Ones.

 

The gearbox is 7 gears in 'D', & 6 gears in 'S'.

More to it than that, but thats is a whole different subject.

(Some in 'S' will change up at to '7th' in 'S' @ around 127mph.

& in Cruise Control it can display 'S 7'  but is not in 'S'.)

Thank you for the clarification

 

I'm now making comparisons of offers received (including pricing and PCP details) and spec levels. Hopefully be able to place my order tomorrow with the vRS if I get a good deal

Edited 22 October, 201411 yr by Tackyauto

Ok, so my local Skoda doesn't have any vRS models on 0% (don't seem to be able to find any to be honest!) so I guess that leaves the Black Edition left. It's still waiting there and it is a nice car, but I'm not sure if it is worth jumping from my HP (2 years left) to a 3 year PCP where you never own the car and probably get bugger all of a deposit at the end (as I understand it, you never get money back?).

The question is do you always swap cars at 2-3 years or do you generally keep longer?

If the former, pcp is better and cheaper option (as you're never looking to keep it anyway, so technically only renting). If the latter, hp/loan is better.

The guaranteed value should be less than the car would typically get at trade in. So you should always clear a good deposit for a new car.