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.... Brakes are cheeper than clutches.That's my way. ...

That's my way too. I'd sooner spend a couple of hundred pounds replacing my brakes than a couple of thousand replacing the gearbox.

 

Engine braking only for safety reasons when essential to maintain control, such as very long and very steep downhill with lots of bends and brakes fading badly.

but my hand is usually on the stick 

Far tooooo much information :devil:

So let me get this straight and hopefully make it simple cause I understand simple.

 

To go/speed up, press right pedal

 

To stop/slow down, press left pedal

 

Is that it ?

So let me get this straight and hopefully make it simple cause I understand simple.

 

To go/speed up, press right pedal

 

To stop/slow down, press left pedal

 

Is that it ?

I think youve got it spot on there :D

So let me get this straight and hopefully make it simple cause I understand simple.

 

To go/speed up, press right pedal

 

To stop/slow down, press left pedal

 

Is that it ?

its no good giving out such important advice if you are unsure is it? thats just dangerous  :D

 

Now i know I'm a bit of a rebel but I have always used the break pedal to slow down.

its no good giving out such important advice if you are unsure is it? thats just dangerous  :D

 

Now i know I'm a bit of a rebel but I have always used the break pedal to slow down.

Is that the break pedal or the brake pedal? :D

Is that the break pedal or the brake pedal? :D

 

Thats just plane nasty  :devil:

When downhill in "D" mode and you reduce speed slowly by slight application of the brake, gearbox downshifts and the gear selected corresponds to engine rpm. If brake is applied sharply for a short time, speed decreases insignificantly but the gear selected does not corresponds to engine rpm ( lower gear and high rpm). I'm using "manual", stopping the car by the brake and when desired speed is reached I select the proper gear manually as needed. Brakes are cheeper than clutches.That's my way. You can use "engine brake" to prevent the car to accelerate but not to stop it.

In a stop and go traffic "manual" is also good idea (sorry but you lose the comfort of auto :notme: ) The problem is that DSG7 almost not using 1-st gear. So instead of creeping only on 1-st and eventually on 2-nd gear in "manual" your car in "D" goes like this 1-2-1-stop, 1-2-1-stop,....... 1-2-3-1-stop.... From 3-rd to 1-st is worst case. My opinion is that using 1-st gear with higher rpm than computer recommends for upshift and eventually 2-nd gear is good idea to creep in trafic jam. 

 

Thanks very much for the INFO dude :)

 

so i got from you that engine braking by gears uses & causes clutch wear or can say cause strain on the clutch,

 

also i want to tell you about the way i use my DSG to try as much as i can to minimize the clutch wear & advice me if there is something wrong ,

1-in very slow traffic that go then stop then go then stop , i put the lever to D & let the car move without pressing accelerator to not rush it the road stops i just puts N , then road moves again i put D again , in this scenario the car always goes from 1-2 only & nearly no need to go from 2-1 as i always puts N before it needs to lower the gear 

2-am driving on my normal way & am on D7 and normal speed 90 - 100KM , then am going to Red Light and will stop or reduce my speed to something like 5-10KMs , i throw the stick to N & let the car glide till stop on the red light , i think this prevents the gear from going 7-6-5-4-3-2-1 , the same as if you are driving a manual :)

Note that i don't have any problems in making many changes to gear lever & losing the comfort of auto in the above mentioned scenarios :)

 

1-in very slow traffic that go then stop then go then stop , i put the lever to D & let the car move without pressing accelerator to not rush it the road stops i just puts N , then road moves again i put D again

Extremely bad idea. Don't do this any more. If you want the car to move always press the accelerator, exept in case of parking when you want the car to move slowly. Your way causes the clutch to wear faster.

 

"2-am driving on my normal way & am on D7 and normal speed 90 - 100KM , then am going to Red Light and will stop or reduce my speed to something like 5-10KMs , i throw the stick to N & let the car glide till stop on the red light"  - setting to N in this occasion it's OK. I don't do that but I thing there is nothing bad.

 

 

..."2-am driving on my normal way & am on D7 and normal speed 90 - 100KM , then am going to Red Light and will stop or reduce my speed to something like 5-10KMs , i throw the stick to N & let the car glide till stop on the red light"  - setting to N in this occasion it's OK. I don't do that but I thing there is nothing bad."

 

 

Just a heads-up, coasting, either with the gears in neutral or just the clutch fully depressed, is regarded in the UK as not good practice in our Highway Code, and can count against you in a driving test. Not illegal, but not encouraged by the powers that be.

 

I know some of the posters don't live in the UK.

Just a heads-up, coasting, either with the gears in neutral or just the clutch fully depressed, is regarded in the UK as not good practice in our Highway Code, and can count against you in a driving test. Not illegal, but not encouraged by the powers that be.

 

The DSG does this automatically if your in ECO Mode !

Yeah, saw that a few days ago! Be interesting if it was illegal, as I believe it might have been some years back.

Extremely bad idea. Don't do this any more. If you want the car to move always press the accelerator, exept in case of parking when you want the car to move slowly. Your way causes the clutch to wear faster.

 

 

Are you sure? If you dont touch the accelerator, surely the only thing working is the torque convertor. The gears wont be changing at all. How is the clutch going to wear out?

DSG doesn't use a torque convertor, but 2 sets of clutches. Which wear just like normal clutches. Except they are very narrow (as they have to fit alongside each other), so wear even faster.

setting to N in this occasion it's OK. I don't do that but I thing there is nothing bad.

 

You are losing the engine braking, so your brake pads will wear out sooner and you have less control

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DSG doesn't use a torque convertor, but 2 sets of clutches. Which wear just like normal clutches. Except they are very narrow (as they have to fit alongside each other), so wear even faster.

Oh my that sounds complicated.

So will they wear out quicker by releasing the brake and using the idling power of the engine to move you forward?

 

No auto gearboxed Skoda for me. Torque convertor all the way. So simple.

Thanks very much for the INFO dude :)

 

so i got from you that engine braking by gears uses & causes clutch wear or can say cause strain on the clutch,

 

also i want to tell you about the way i use my DSG to try as much as i can to minimize the clutch wear & advice me if there is something wrong ,

1-in very slow traffic that go then stop then go then stop , i put the lever to D & let the car move without pressing accelerator to not rush it the road stops i just puts N , then road moves again i put D again , in this scenario the car always goes from 1-2 only & nearly no need to go from 2-1 as i always puts N before it needs to lower the gear 

2-am driving on my normal way & am on D7 and normal speed 90 - 100KM , then am going to Red Light and will stop or reduce my speed to something like 5-10KMs , i throw the stick to N & let the car glide till stop on the red light , i think this prevents the gear from going 7-6-5-4-3-2-1 , the same as if you are driving a manual :)

Note that i don't have any problems in making many changes to gear lever & losing the comfort of auto in the above mentioned scenarios :)

Just a couple of surprising observations here.

1- You let slow traffic effect the way you drive? Surely its still full steam ahead and beep the horn if someone is in front of you?

2- 100km/hr is normal driving? What about 140 to 150?

 

It doesnt sound to me like you are in Egypt :devil:

Just a couple of surprising observations here.

1- You let slow traffic effect the way you drive? Surely its still full steam ahead and beep the horn if someone is in front of you?

2- 100km/hr is normal driving? What about 140 to 150?

 

It doesnt sound to me like you are in Egypt :devil:

 

it seems that you had been to Egypt before :)

100KM is my normal driving , in some open & wide stretches on the road i can get up to 200KM :) but this very rare 

 

even driving in 100KM/H is achieved on highway only as am on the highway every day from home to work & vice versa , i drive daily a distance of about 110KM .

it seems that you had been to Egypt before :)

100KM is my normal driving , in some open & wide stretches on the road i can get up to 200KM :) but this very rare 

 

even driving in 100KM/H is achieved on highway only as am on the highway every day from home to work & vice versa , i drive daily a distance of about 110KM .

Unfortunately ive had to experience Egyptian driving two or three times. I can honestly say it is the scariest experience i have ever had, bar non.

Bombing down what is meant to be a highway at god knows what speed, stradling two lanes. Car in front is sat correctly in one lane, going slower. Instead of us moving over into a full lane to overtake, we stay stradling the lanes, get right up his backside, and start beeping our horn until he moves out the way. Then theres the car joining the highway, nobody giving way, and was on the verge of heading straight into the side of our car (or into me should i say), until he decided to break and wait for a gap. I thought that was me gone.

 

Ive also got about a hundred broken backs from going over speed humps.

Unfortunately ive had to experience Egyptian driving two or three times. I can honestly say it is the scariest experience i have ever had, bar non.

Bombing down what is meant to be a highway at god knows what speed, stradling two lanes. Car in front is sat correctly in one lane, going slower. Instead of us moving over into a full lane to overtake, we stay stradling the lanes, get right up his backside, and start beeping our horn until he moves out the way. Then theres the car joining the highway, nobody giving way, and was on the verge of heading straight into the side of our car (or into me should i say), until he decided to break and wait for a gap. I thought that was me gone.

 

Ive also got about a hundred broken backs from going over speed humps.

 

unfortunately what you described is our daily driving methods/roads :(

you are correct about this .

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