I've got the 1.6tdi 105 in my monte and it's a cracking engine, I do various driving, town, rural and long distances and it always returns a healthy mpg 55+ on a long run!

Also the £20 a year tax and my insurance has halved since having a mk1 VRS.

I'm very impressed with mine so it gets my vote but as others have said it would be best to test drive both

DarrellGB has details of his Modifications at the foot of his posts.

Stage 1 Remap, S3 Intercooler, VWR Filter & soon a Turbo Upgrade,  

so comparing with a standard 105 ps 1.2 TSI or 1.6 TDI CR seems a bit strange.   Not Apples & Pears or even Apples & Oranges.

As a diesel nut, for your proposed usuage, I would recommend the 1.2 TSI, it is an absolute "wee cracker" of an engine, and fabulously torquy for a wee petrol.

And I tested the 1.2TSI in a Yeti with a manual, IT was very very impressive, and guarenteed to be better with the DSG.

(Aside from the low speed manuvering on an incline "quirk" which appears to affect all DSG's0

That said, I do like our 1.6TDI, but from experience the difference in fuel consumption vis-a-vis the extra cost of the diesel fuel, is making it VERY marginal, to run a diesel, unless doing prob 20,000 plus mile per year.

OR keeping the car for 10 or 12 years, and still doing 12 to 15 k per year.

cheers

Marcus

Wouldnt even bother with a diesel if you're doing 7 miles each way, each day.

Test drive a 1.2 tsi. Youll be pleasantly surprised i think

Thank you all for the comments it's helped me lots to decide which I want I think my heart says the 1.6 because of the tax but my head says the 1.2 seen as I don't do lots of miles and the off chance I go on a longer journey the 1.2 would handle this where as if I get a diesel I'm not getting the most out of it with the low milage.

I just thought me being silly the 1.2 skoda have tweaked it loads to get the same power as a 1.6 so it must have problems etc but from what people are saying it's a great engine now just to try and save for one as well as saving for a house

The 1.2TSI 86 or 105ps is a Turbo engine & a Remap can take it to around 130 bhp, 125 bhp easily,

and without much risk because even with the 105 ps there is enough power, you are not going to be sitting with the needle in the Red all the time anyway if just driving in the UK.

Thank you all for the comments it's helped me lots to decide which I want I think my heart says the 1.6 because of the tax but my head says the 1.2 seen as I don't do lots of miles and the off chance I go on a longer journey the 1.2 would handle this where as if I get a diesel I'm not getting the most out of it with the low milage.

I just thought me being silly the 1.2 skoda have tweaked it loads to get the same power as a 1.6 so it must have problems etc but from what people are saying it's a great engine now just to try and save for one as well as saving for a house

Tax is only £90 a year more but the cost of buying a diesel Fabia will be more so it wouldn't matter, as for tweaking to get it the same power as a 1.6, it's only 105bhp, no tweaking involved really. Ford has a three cylinder 1.0l that gets 125bhp so it's easily done without stressing any components.

That's great to know think when the time is right I will take one out on a test drive am I right in thinking that not to go for a diesel because I don't do too many miles and it's not working to it's capacity ie bits may get blocked with diesel particles because of the short journeys

Is anyone from the leeds area on here

But does that mean not to buy a diesel unless you're doing a certain amount of miles each time? Otherwise it's bad for the car? Surely not, maybe someone with more knowledge on diesels can have a say

That's great to know think when the time is right I will take one out on a test drive am I right in thinking that not to go for a diesel because I don't do too many miles and it's not working to it's capacity ie bits may get blocked with diesel particles because of the short journeys

Is anyone from the leeds area on here

Yeah, you're spot on, I've been driving diesels for the last 15 years or so and was going to buy a diesel Monte but it was £1k more and the fact I've only got a 15-16 mile round trip to work meant it wasn't worth spending the extra. The DPF can get blocked but it does self regen which is meant to clean it but for the miles you will be doing it might not get a chance to.

You're best driving both when the time comes and see which one you prefer, I only test drove the 105 TSI but loved it, it really goes better than the size might suggest, good luck anyway when you're looking, you'll not be dissapointed whichever one you choose.

It is not bad for the diesel engine, it might hurt your pocket if the car is doing short journeys.

 

Good fuel consumption and very low VED is lovely,

but Regenerations can ruin your good Average MPGs, because Regens use fuel.

& DPF issues can hit you in the pocket come time.

 

At least VW set it out, but so should Skoda make the issues clearer.

http://volkswagen.co.uk/need-help/technology/dpf-short-journeys

Edited 14 January, 201511 yr by goneoffSKi

Thank you for that link it's making sence now sorry I'm just not that clued up on cars.

Yes when the time is right I need to take the 1.2 for a test drive and see but it sounds like that's the one for me just always good to know different types of engines

Got to sing the praises of the 1.2 Tsi 105 DSG once again :clap:

 

It's a fabulous motor everything considered. 

 

Can't comment on the diesel except to reiterate others views, if you're not doing the miles a diesel is perhaps best left alone. The small difference in cost of the RFL over 12 months is well offset by the extra cost of fuel.

 

If it's 'quick' you're after then get a Vrs, otherwise the little 1.2 Tsi is a fine responsive drive that will put a smile on your face every time you take the wheel    Well that's my view, hope you find a good one which ever you decide on.

But does that mean not to buy a diesel unless you're doing a certain amount of miles each time? Otherwise it's bad for the car? Surely not, maybe someone with more knowledge on diesels can have a say

Modern diesels have a particulate filter (dpf) which catches the soot deposits and burns them off to ash when the temp gets high enough.

If you only do short journeys, itll never get up to temp and itll get blocked.

They can sometimes regen but if not a replacement DPF is very expensive part. About £1k iirc.

So its best to ditch to a petrol unless doing longer trips. 20 miles in one journey or more, regularly.

Got to sing the praises of the 1.2 Tsi 105 DSG once again :clap:

 

It's a fabulous motor everything considered. 

 

Can't comment on the diesel except to reiterate others views, if you're not doing the miles a diesel is perhaps best left alone. The small difference in cost of the RFL over 12 months is well offset by the extra cost of fuel.

 

If it's 'quick' you're after then get a Vrs, otherwise the little 1.2 Tsi is a fine responsive drive that will put a smile on your face every time you take the wheel    Well that's my view, hope you find a good one which ever you decide on.

Thank you yes I did fancy the vrs but too much insurance and not the reliability I want can't wait to start properly looking and test drive

Do you think the new fabia will change the cost of the mark 2 fabia

They might bring the prices down a little i guess but that's just my view so wouldn't bet on it haha. Anyway when you're test driving, make sure you check that the car does not pull to the left at all when you let go of the steering wheel, go on a straight road and let go of the steering wheel and see where it takes you...wish i did that with mine when i first test drove it.

They might bring the prices down a little i guess but that's just my view so wouldn't bet on it haha. Anyway when you're test driving, make sure you check that the car does not pull to the left at all when you let go of the steering wheel, go on a straight road and let go of the steering wheel and see where it takes you...wish i did that with mine when i first test drove it.

Is this a bit problem or is it just the tracking is this not in a recall with skoda anyway anything else to look out for

Seems to be a very common problem with fabias and also seems like there isn't a definite solution but loads of different possibilities, anyway just look out for it. Nope nothing else i can think of, i haven't had any problems with mine apart from the pulling to the left. If you have the chance then i would get the sat nav option as it looks very smart and is very useful

DarrellGB has details of his Modifications at the foot of his posts.

Stage 1 Remap, S3 Intercooler, VWR Filter & soon a Turbo Upgrade,  

so comparing with a standard 105 ps 1.2 TSI or 1.6 TDI CR seems a bit strange.   Not Apples & Pears or even Apples & Oranges.

Just showing the wider tuning potential if the 1.6tdi over the 1.2tsi should that be something that may be a consideration.

Just showing the wider tuning potential if the 1.6tdi over the 1.2tsi should that be something that may be a consideration.

Ha ha you like getting your mods in don't you it's something that doesn't bother me at the moment the hastle of declaring it to insurance and effecting the mpg performance if I'm right

Ha ha you like getting your mods in don't you it's something that doesn't bother me at the moment the hastle of declaring it to insurance and effecting the mpg performance if I'm right

Drive it as you normaly would and your mpg will increase benefits of more torque and still £30 tax

Seems to be a very common problem with fabias and also seems like there isn't a definite solution but loads of different possibilities, anyway just look out for it. Nope nothing else i can think of, i haven't had any problems with mine apart from the pulling to the left. If you have the chance then i would get the sat nav option as it looks very smart and is very useful

can the satnav be fitted after if I was to buy seperate as there's not many for sale with the satnav included

Is the 1.2 easy to tune up without disturbing the mpg

can the satnav be fitted after if I was to buy seperate as there's not many for sale with the satnav included

Is the 1.2 easy to tune up without disturbing the mpg

It can be fitted afterwards yeah. Its caller a 'columbus'. Youll need to fit a gps antenna too though.

1.2 tsi (as far as i know) hasnt had much more than a remap done n a few little things (air filters etc). As said, a remap will bring around 130bhp, regardless as to whether it starts life as an 86 or 105bhp model

I would go for the 1.2 petrol every day over the 1.6 diesel.

 

The reasons are:

 

Economical for a petrol.

Lively enough for daily driving.

Lighter so the car is better balanced, so handling is improved.

Quieter.

More refined.

Warms up faster in winter.

Available in DSG form which is a cracking combination, if you don't want a manual.

Cheaper to buy.

 

The only benefits of the diesel i my opinion are:

 

Cheaper to run.

More in gear torque for accelerating without changing gear.

Just showing the wider tuning potential if the 1.6tdi over the 1.2tsi should that be something that may be a consideration.

 

It might have helped to state yours was modified from the outset to avoid confusion.

Signatures don't show on mobile devices, well not on mine anyway.