Hi Guys

 

It’s time to order the new company car and have made a short list of the following cars; The new Mondeo, VW Tiguan, VRS Estate (Tdi) or Scout 184.

 

Now on a Skoda forum not expecting you nice people to comment on the Ford or VW so looking at the Skoda I can’t decide between the VRS or Scout.

 

I like my Mk 3 and with the 150 engine it's very nippy, just sometimes find it hard to get the power down in the wet so I like the idea of having the VRS engine in a 4x4.

 

Having said that Bi-Xenon lamps which are standard on the VRS are an extra for the Scout which takes it out over budget.

 

So the basic decision, VRS with Bi-Xenon lamps or Scout with 4x4 and DSG however no Bi-Xenon lamps. (Interestingly the Scout is about £10 per month cheaper than the VRS).

 

I would love to get your feed back, especially if anyone has driven both the VRS and Scout

 

Thanks

 

Robert

Edited 15 January, 201511 yr by Rob56

Which Tiguan were you considering and have you ruled out the Yeti for some other reason?

Go Scout.

 

If you don't like the way the 150 engine doesn't get the grip down the vRS could well be worse with more power. Added to that there are quite a few vRS cars around now, almost too common (debatable). 

 

Not many Scout's out there, the halogen lights can be fitted with better bulbs - and it's £10/month cheaper. And I think it looks great, plus as you live in Scotland, surely the 4x4 seals the decision

Don't rule out the Mazda 6 estate.  It's a very good car.

The Tiguan is  simply down to price (£227/month) on CH.

 

 

To be honest, I think both the Tiguan and Yeti will be too small for my needs - the boot in the Mk3 is ideal for my needs

The Mazda 6 is a lovely car, however the CH rates are much higher than Skoda like for like

IIRC the Scout is actually faster than the vRS and the DSG is bliss to use.

Good point about upgrading the halogen bulbs, specifying bi xenon lights added an extra £30 per month!!

All a matter of opinion I guess. For me the vRS looks better and i think id get more from the more sporty nature of the vRS (given it has specifically tuned suspension, superb brakes and progressive steering) but a 184 TDi 4x4 DSG also has its appeal.

The Scout does come with sat nav too does it not as that is something that is omitted from vRS spec.

Vrs, end of chat...

Get the Scout. It is a 4x4 version of the vRS!

If you want to go fast and feel it properly, get the VRS i.e better handling, steering and stopping. If you want to go just about as fast regardless of the conditions but not worry about car feedback get the Scout.
If you want both of those things at once, buy new WRX or Golf R.

Edited 15 January, 201511 yr by snala

I've had the MkII 140 Scout and now have a VRS. The Scout was great, relatively cheap and never let me down but I never really got to properly like it - no adrenaline, satisfying handling, excitement - it was just competent in all areas. The VRS is a different beast, not as comfortable riding, but really glued to the road, no body lean in corners, I've tried quite hard but not really found its limits yet - really fun and fast. Surprising thing is that my wife who is not mad about cars also likes the looks and the much improved handling. Truth is 2WD and winter tyres will get you to almost everywhere on tarmac. 4wd is good if you go off-road regularly - otherwise not needed. People on about traction but if you can't avoid planting full throttle in low gears in the wet you have a problem... I'm a VRS convert! (The worst sort)

Ah but the old Scout wasn't 184bhp...

Go Scout.

 

If you don't like the way the 150 engine doesn't get the grip down the vRS could well be worse with more power. 

 

It is way worse in the wet. Good tires do help, as does the ESC sport mode, but you will always struggle to get those horses on the tarmac, which is also part of the charm, I think. 

A 4x4 will help in part, but do realize this is not a permanent 4-wheel drive, instead it only diverts power as soon as the front wheels lose traction, so you could have some delay. 

Not true Diango - the 4x4 system since facelift MkII has been Haldex IV and V, which is proactive. It automatically feeds power to the back depending on throttle setting and various other parameters as well as slip measured by the ABS sensors.

p.s. quietly like 'managing' the power accelerating out of roundabouts on fast A-roads - a bit of ASR action and steering twitch combined with decent acceleration and engine note all adds to the experience, it is possible to get a bit of wheel-spin even in third on wet greasy roads. The TSI is lighter on the front wheels but has diesel-like torque...

Thanks for the feedback

 

Wasn’t even thinking about a Scout till returning home late on snowy Tuesday night, then decided to check the CH rates with Skoda.

 

Was very surprised that the Scout (£28k) was £10 per month cheaper than the VRS (£25k) due, I think to the Scout having a lower depreciation rate than the VRS giving the lower per month cost.

 

Must admit I quite like the idea of a ‘standard’ looking car that accelerates faster than the VRS (still a boy racer at heart

Sold my MkII Scout a couple of days ago. I take delivery of my 184hp Scout next week. Can't wait!

 

I live in Mid-Norway so 4x4 is almost essential. When I saw the specs for the new 184hp Scout it didn't take more than a few minutes before I decided I wanted one. But am going over from manual to DSG for the first time. I wonder what the 184hp car would be like coupled to a manual gearbox.

Love my Scout.  I bought it to replace the Merc I had as a towcar for my racing MG and I wanted something a bit more fun.  I do enjoy hustling a car which "shouldn't" be fast along fairly rapidly.  

I can confirm that traction is controlled quite nicely. Unlike the 4x4 Honda CR-V, the Scout does not lose traction so easily and the rear axle is used on time, not too late. However, in the snow it is easy to spin all wheels

The new scout is a great car and very good looking. I almost have 2000 km with my 2.0 TDI , 184 hp DSG and i am very satisfied . The car runs and looks great. Mine is race blue colour. The acceleration is awsome

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You, you (not me ) simply need a lowered, stiffer, 184 (oh, why not 190?) horses, AWD octy.

 

With respect to my old "optimized" VRS TDI MkII, the traction of my 150 is way way better. I guess an AWD 184 must be a hell of a car!

 

Only, I couldn't configure it without xenons, it is a completely different experience in the dark.

This is becoming very difficult, thanks for all the feedback.

 

Love the idea of 184 4x4, can I live without Bi –Xeon?

 

Help!

 

Rob

 

Love the idea of 184 4x4, can I live without Bi –Xeon?

After having Xenon lights for the last decade, I couldn't imagine going back to halogens...that said if you only drive on well lit roads it won't matter as much.