really worried here guys was trying to nurse my skoda home and reached a hill, engine was in first as it wouldn't move , manual and was trying to nurse it up with short revs , i smelt the clutch so i got a bit upset as i love this car but i couldn't leave it there as it was a main road so i had to battle on , at the very peak of the hill a warning chime went off and every warning light on the dash lit up just really worried about my vrs i love it to bits is that just a safety feature as when i restarted the engine all was fine 

Sorry but can you explain, 

did you have it in 1st manual to try and keep moving?  

Or would it not change up from 1st, and kept going in 1st,

or was it spinning the wheels, or wheel.?

 

Did you have the TC off to help matters.?

Sorry but can you explain, 

did you have it in 1st manual to try and keep moving?  

Or would it not change up from 1st, and kept going in 1st,

or was it spinning the wheels, or wheel.?

 

Did you have the TC off to help matters.?

Traction control off wheels where spinning , smelt what i think is the clutch and was in manual in first as no other gear would move my car really upset as i love my little skoda I've managed to get it home and it drove fine after that 

Has the car already had the 'free' Service Campaign Work on the DSG. ?

If not, maybe best get it done, and be sure they are checking the Mechatronic Control Unit as well as Changing the Oil & doing the ECU Update.

Funny how your username can be seen as 'Thomas a spin'. But anyway.

I dont mean to be rude, couldnt resist pointing that out given the thread topic .

Maybe just see how the car goes from now on? In normal driving

You probably could smell the brakes getting hot.

 

The car uses the brakes to brake the spinning wheel to transfer power to the other wheel through the diff.

 

Prolonged wheelspin can cause the brakes to overheat.

 

This system works even when the TCS is switched off.

 

Phil

& When the Brakes overheat the XDS is disabled. (XDS, XDS +, EDL = Electronic Differential Lock in VW Speak)

 

Which is why when using a vRS on the Track it is worth having the XDS set at off or nearly off,

because it is likely to switch its self off anyway.

 

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/227295-who-needs-a-lsd

Post #51 by me.  

When buying used, you do not know what settings might be on the car still,

so you might need or want Factory Settings, then adjust once you know what you need.

Edited 30 January, 201511 yr by goneoffSKi

I'd say you've got nothing to worry about but ultimately, if you are concerned then I'd suggest booking it in at your local dealer.

 

In all likelihood it was just the brakes over heating although I don't have the vrs anymore, I never managed to get I only got stuck once in a car park, all of the other times I've managed to keep enough momentum and aim for the highest gear possible.

 

I would say though that if you could only move in first gear that you were already spinning both wheels when you changed up to second which resulted in more wheel spin at a higher speed...

 

Without knowing the roads you are driving its difficult to suggest any other way of going about it

 

I personally just lifted off the brake and allowed the car to creep up the hills.

 

EM

I cant have been the clutch.... if the clutch is even getting near hot, you will get a clutch overheating warning on maxi dot... then it will start to slip the clutch deliberatley.... it can only really be done with multiple hot standing starts.....

 

as others have said, it will be the XDS trying to prevent wheelspin, overheating the brakes.... then the system shutting down.

 

I live on a hill, we have snow, I have never had an issue...

 

BUT I use winter tyres

 

your car will be FINE, dont stress

As above don't worry you car will be fine.

I had an absolute 'mare in the M135i last night when it got stuck on a hill in a severe hailstorm. I was stranded for a few minutes before some rain came to the rescue and melted enough of the hail to let me get moving.

You probably could smell the brakes getting hot.

 

The car uses the brakes to brake the spinning wheel to transfer power to the other wheel through the diff.

 

Prolonged wheelspin can cause the brakes to overheat.

 

This system works even when the TCS is switched off.

 

Phil

 

Yes, but that will happen only during fast cornering/sudden maneuvers when the car's direction doesn't match the steering wheel angle (under/oversteering situations). Then the XDS will intervene as it operates independently of the Traction Control. I don't see though how this could be the case when you're driving off in slippery conditions  (unless you have your wheels not pointing ahead maybe?). In those cases turning TCS off will allow some wheelspin but if XDS/ESP overrides it what is the point of even having a turn on/off button?  Also, an ESP/XDS/TCS intervention just gets the ESP symbol blinking, it doesn't light up the entire dashboard as the OP describes.

 

 

 

& When the Brakes overheat the XDS is disabled. (XDS, XDS +, EDL = Electronic Differential Lock in VW Speak)

 

Which is why when using a vRS on the Track it is worth having the XDS set at off or nearly off,

because it is likely to switch its self off anyway.

 

 

You can't turn XDS off. There are 3 settings: Stock, Soft and Hard but not off.

Edited 30 January, 201511 yr by newbie69

That is why i said off or nearly off.   Use the VAGCOM to do the nearly off.

 

You can actually have it off, but that would be for Track Use only.

Maybe research how you do that.

Edited 30 January, 201511 yr by goneoffSKi

 

Yes, but that will happen only during fast cornering/sudden maneuvers when the car's direction doesn't match the steering wheel angle (under/oversteering situations). Then the XDS will intervene as it operates independently of the Traction Control. I don't see though how this could be the case when you're driving off in slippery conditions  (unless you have your wheels not pointing ahead maybe?). In those cases turning TCS off will allow some wheelspin but if XDS/ESP overrides it what is the point of even having a turn on/off button?  Also, an ESP/XDS/TCS intervention just gets the ESP symbol blinking, it doesn't light up the entire dashboard as the OP describes.

 

 

 

 

You can't turn XDS off. There are 3 settings: Stock, Soft and Hard but not off.

 

ypu CAN turn it off on mine, I had it off last year, and there are 5 settings... the settings you are talking about are on older vRS's , again the 2013 on cars are totally different. I press the "OFF" option on the laptop

That is why i said off or nearly off.   Use the VAGCOM to do the nearly off.

 

You can actually have it off, but that would be for Track Use only.

Maybe research how you do that.

 

But even on soft you can feel it engaging when it thinks it's necessary. I don't think I've seen any guides on how to turn completely off, have you? Wouldn't think it's possible.

as I said, I turn it OFF for the track season, I watch Jason do it on the laptop... I watch him press the "OFF" option!

 

my old 60 plate car was different.... different option ect ect , just the three, the 2013 on car is different, you simply choos "off" !!

Edited 30 January, 201511 yr by sharkrider

ypu CAN turn it off on mine, I had it off last year, and there are 5 settings... the settings you are talking about are on older vRS's , again the 2013 on cars are totally different. I press the "OFF" option on the laptop

 

Oh, no idea MY2013 were different in that respect. Can you also turn ESP completely off maybe?

Oh, no idea MY2013 were different in that respect. Can you also turn ESP completely off maybe?

havent seen that option, but then I havent tried..... I dont find over intrusive on the track (you can still get sideways) BUT I find the XDS a complete pain on the track..... I have it turned on now for winter out of track season, but at the first track day (castle coomb) I will be having Jason turn it off again ...

 

some of the old VCDS wouldnt even get into the new ECU's ...... there were completely different, thats why they couldn't be mapped, thats why there is more power, ect ect ....

 

even the suspension bushes are different on 2013 cars.... there are a whole raft of things!

You can do anything and everything.

 

But when you pull Fuses or Relays you need to know what else is affected.

So maybe best not other than for Track use,  it can be costly even then.

ABS, ESP, BA, XDS, Steering etc can all be affected when Disabling by the Old Skool way.

DSG as well which could be the biggest expense.

Edited 30 January, 201511 yr by goneoffSKi

You can do anything and everything.

 

But when you pull Fuses or Relays you need to know what else is affected.

So maybe best not other than for Track use,  it can be costly even then.

ABS, ESP, BA, XDS, Steering etc can all be affected when Disabling by the Old Skool way.

DSG as well which could be the biggest expense.

 

I wouldn't go as far as pulling fuses etc. even for track use ( I actually will be hitting one around mid March if all goes well), referring more to what was available from manufacturer.