Had a good afternoon at Dr Japs in Manchester today organised by the good chaps at Derv-Tech. Got the Fabia on the rolling road again after John (Faboka) had made some tweaks to fuelling top end.

 

Pulled a figure of 270bhp and 353ft/lbs. I imagine that the RR is over-reading slightly, but that's still some impressive pub figures!

 

 

The shocking thing is that I'm still on standard nozzles. There seems to be a constant debate either here or the Fabia FB page about their capability. 2 rolling roads have now proven that standard nozzles are more than capable of achieving figures above 250bhp safely. I honestly don't think I'll be going down the uprated injector route, as I really don't think there's the gain for £££ spent. Only way I'll do it is if I go for a bigger turbo.

 

 

Steve... get your results up here too!!! I forgot to ask you - what boost are you running on that 2260 hybrid?

Great results Alex. Shame I couldn't make it. Would have been nice to chat with the lads at ##!!##h.

It's always a dyno lottery.

Holy **** !!!

Mine ran 277bhp and 408ftlb on 2 different rollers. Now ive had dervteh map it for less smokes its definatley less however i may look into faboka mapping it as he has done my other fabia and done a great job. Jesus them results are amazing!!

Dont think u meant me when u said steve though haha?

I was talking to Ash and James about your car actually! As I saw what the smoke used to be like when Joel had it. Quite the smoke machine ha ha!

 

John's mapping skills are definitely second to none

 

 

Ha ha no I meant steveopc with the white one!! He was there as well.

 

 

2.5BAR

 

oh and alex it was nice to meet you. 

Steve, would you mind taking another photo? The graph one is a little blurd.

Nice result Alex

Steve,is that your finished map now,or still waiting to be finished?

Nice result Alex

Steve,is that your finished map now,or still waiting to be finished?

stop screw needs a tweek which im going to do monday all good then but got to say she pulled the clock easily on the way home

Steve, would you mind taking another photo? The graph one is a little blurd.

Great results guys. Always good to see the tuning game move along. I guess the injector power capacity debate was based on hybrids etc. the introduction of the gtb over the past couple of years has really helped push the boundaries

I was talking to Ash and James about your car actually! As I saw what the smoke used to be like when Joel had it. Quite the smoke machine ha ha!

 

John's mapping skills are definitely second to none

 

 

Ha ha no I meant steveopc with the white one!! He was there as well.

when i get time i will get mine back on the same rollers i pulled the 277 with dirtytorque map but using the new ##!!##h map. i est about 265bhp and a lot less torque this time id say 370ftlb. but smoke is a lot less now. how bad does yours smoke. any videos????

Great results. Warick hunts old car puled 270bhp on standard injectors a few years back which shocked quite a lot of people.

I had another car there on the rollers. Similar setup to Alex but on a tubular. That made 274bhp and 380ftlbs. I see on Facebook that Jamie's Passat broke the 300bhp on these rollers.

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I had another car there on the rollers. Similar setup to Alex but on a tubular. That made 274bhp and 380ftlbs. I see on Facebook that Jamie's Passat broke the 300bhp on these rollers.

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345bhp whas his best run

Yeah on NOS and ethonal

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Great results. Warick hunts old car puled 270bhp on standard injectors a few years back which shocked quite a lot of people.

Different rollers different results though as this car is now owned by Clarkey666 and we both had ours running on Shark rollers at 256bhp although mine had more torque at 423lb/ft.

 

Mine too ran 270bhp on Jabba rollers so just shows !!

 

Have now booked the car in for upgraded injectors so will see how that changes things 

when i get time i will get mine back on the same rollers i pulled the 277 with dirtytorque map but using the new ##!!##h map. i est about 265bhp and a lot less torque this time id say 370ftlb. but smoke is a lot less now. how bad does yours smoke. any videos????

 

 

This was it at the last rolling road day at Group B Motorsport....

 

http://vid51.photobucket.com/albums/f385/alexe3/Fabia%20vRS/VID-20150301-WA0005_zpsbw8mkz8h.mp4

 

http://vid51.photobucket.com/albums/f385/alexe3/Fabia%20vRS/VID-20150301-WA0004_zpsjlckvs0s.mp4

 

The side-exit always catches people out ha ha!

stop scshouldeds a tweek which im going to do monday all good then but got to say she pulled the clock easily on the way home

 

Surely there should be quite a lot more to get from your car yet?

 

Injectors/tubular/head work/cam and hybrid 2260 should equal more than 9bhp over a 2260 on standard injectors and cast manifold?

 

 

Surely there should be quite a lot more to get from your car yet?

 

Injectors/tubular/head work/cam and hybrid 2260 should equal more than 9bhp over a 2260 on standard injectors and cast manifold?

 

 

Tubular will make no difference and I think he bottled the head/cam work as it was quite expensive, so that leaves the injectors which clearly aren't set up properly.

Fairly sure he got a new camshaft but not sure if it was performance or not.

Actually I'm starting to u-turn on the manifold situation...

 

Of the 2 rolling road days that I've been to, the cars with the tubular's on have made similar power to mine, but more importantly about 20-30ft/lbs more.

 

Yesterday there was a Golf that has the same spec as mine but with a tubular (and mapped by John also), and it made about 4bhp more than me and about 30ft/lbs more torque!

Steve's said he's running same boost as Alex so I don't see it making much difference to the bhp figures. Unless the head/cam and larger compressor wheel improves engine efficiently. If it doesn't then the only way to get more air into the engine is more boost.

When we say headwork, what's actually been done? Big valves or just ported?

Actually I'm starting to u-turn on the manifold situation...

 

Of the 2 rolling road days that I've been to, the cars with the tubular's on have made similar power to mine, but more importantly about 20-30ft/lbs more.

 

Yesterday there was a Golf that has the same spec as mine but with a tubular (and mapped by John also), and it made about 4bhp more than me and about 30ft/lbs more torque!

 

4 bhp isn't statically significant, neither is 30ft/lbs for that matter, however if you feel like being a guinea pig then make sure you get before and after figures, preferably on the same day at the same dyno.

 

Most of a tubular (equal length runner) manifolds advantages are not really applicable to a VNT on a TDI.

I agree that 4bhp isn't granted. 30ft/lbs is a fair difference though. Cars were run back to back on the rollers too. Not sure it warrants the money for a new manifold though.

 

Only way I'd buy one is if I bought a larger turbo again. Something I'm contemplating. However, if I can't see close to 300bhp (with some head work also) I don't see the point in the hassle...