If they had your camshaft out to replace the shell bearings, they will have had to have had your timing belt off.

Now when they reinstalled everything, they may not have timed it up 100% in terms of checking the torsion value on a bit of software like VCDS. You can do this by eye by using the marks on the camshaft pulley, but it won't be as good as using a bit of software to tell you the exact value.

It basically involves advancing or retarding your timing slightly to bring the torsion value as close to zero.

If this value is too far out you can experience a rough idle, rough start, poor fuel economy etc.

I'd say this would be a good place to start perhaps as it seems more than a coincidence your rough idle started after they had done the headwork.

I've basically regurgitated this from my own learning as I've just tweaked my torsion value after replacing my camshaft, bearings, followers, timing belt, water pump, tensioner etc. My car was running rough, and from the video I posted, you can see historically it has also ran rough! Lol

My car currently ticks over the smoothest it ever has in the two years I've owned it. And my torsion value is -1.1 and not zero! (Will tweak it again tonight).

I'm just speaking from experience mate but hopefully it might give you some steers or ideas.

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Hey Ash thanks for the heads up on the VCDS software. Will Lite do the job for me to check this value? Cheers

Quite possibly mate, however can't definitively confirm as I've only ever had a full version.

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Hmm just took the car out for a ten mile run, windows down to keep ears on the motor. To my horror when boost builds (not high load foot to the floor as still running head in) these a horrible high pitched squeal that's not a boost leak! Sounds to me that the turbo impeller is catching the housing. FFS this car just gets better and better. The misfiring has got worse. Low revs building boost gradually results in a Horrorendous shudder acompanies by that turbo death cry! Hmm in not convinced a map will sort this out lol

Can you get a sound clip?

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Sure can but I don't have a desk top/lap top so will have to use my phone. Do you know if I can upload mobile video/sound clips using andriod? Cheers

Yes share a link to a file on something like Dropbox or box (for a sound clip) and for a video upload it to something photobucket and share the link.

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Thanks ash mate your a star. I'll upload asap

Hey guys just a quick update.

Can't upload video, for some reason it fails even after editing to reduce the file size.

Anyway the car developed a knocking noise and for some reason it will not get up to temperature at all. I can drive it for over 20 mins and the gauge will not move.

So the garage picked the car up on a flat bed yesterday. The car went off to what I'd presume would be a long while. To my surprise I got a call late on last night to inform me that the car was fixed. The funny noise on boost ended up being my upper boost pipe hose touching the alternator. This was due to the size of the Darkside egr delete and silicone 90 degree bend combo - so that's been trimmed down. Happy days it's not a turbo!!.

VCDS brought up an injector fault so that was replaced and seals done. So hopefully that's my violent judder when warm gone. Now the only other issue is my car judders when driving below 1.5k rpm. This car when I bought it had receipts for the gearbox, duel mass and clutch from only last year. The garage inspecting my car is all but sure my duel mass is on its way out :(

So I'm pretty happy with the outcome other than there being something else wring with this fooker being the clutch!

The bigger issue that still in my mind is after having all the head work, head gasket, water pump, thermostat and coolant temp switch replaced, it still refuses to get up to temperature. I can drive my commute to work (10/15 min dependant upon traffic) and the gauge will not move at all.

I have been informed that because I'm staying off boost my temp gauge does not rise as diesels take longer to warm up compared to petrols. Also because I now have darksides 13 row oil cooler kit fitted, the extra capacity and cooling ability is not allowing the car to get up to temperature(something which I find hard to believe as it's thermostatically controlled so it will not function as a cooler until a certain temperature is o tained).

My question to you guys is, is the Fabias ecu similar to the octavia s in terms of temperture information given to the dash? I know in the 1.8ts that the temp always sits a 90 unless you have a huge issue and it will change. However the ecu reads live time temp which is not shown on the dash gauge. Should this be the same for my Furby?

Thanks a million guys

Not answering all your questions but dual mass flywheels are normally rythmic knock, and that's based on my experience of having my clutch and dmf done not long ago at a cost of £595. Will be noticeable with the car just on tick over not just driving specific.

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Not answering all your questions but dual mass flywheels are normally rythmic knock, and that's based on my experience of having my clutch and dmf done not long ago at a cost of £595. Will be noticeable with the car just on tick over not just driving specific.

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Yes I agree that's my experience with duel mass failures. I find it odd that I get a judder usually between 3rd to 4th gear at 1/1.5k rpm however depressing the clutch or at idle this doesn't happen. Not too sure what it is to be honest. Once I get the car back ill have a better idea of what's going on really.

Well guys, I've had the car back and ran it less than 600 miles. The car had developed a nasty noise that can only be heard in the cabin and not the engine bay -duel mass failing I think. The car refuses to heat up at all no matter how long I leave it to idle. I've ordered a genuine thermostat to see if that makes any difference.

I thought today I'd give it a good look over. To my horror I've discovered a rusty looking header tank, checked it and sure thing, looks bad. So removed the oil filler cap and guess what?! - flopping mayo everywhere. Head gasket again? Less than 600 miles after having this work done!

To say I'm peeved is an understatement. I am speachless. Straight on the blower to the garage and they explained to me that the car was fine when it left them......well obviously not as I've consistantly expressed my concern over the car not getting upto temp. I've also said all through the works that said garage can have the car for as long as it takes and let me know what it needs before I get it back as I do not need any future issues or inconvenience. Well looks like this wasn't looked into either. I have a list of silly things I will be running through with them bit as of now I'm on standby with a 5 gallon petrol can and a lighter. I'm soooo annoyed with this car.

The garage has agreed to pick the car up next week to investigate future but I can only assume they replaced the head gasket last time and did not investigate further into why it went in the first place. I've tried to cover all aspects originally before any work was carried out but looks like I'm going to have to spend twice :( another head gasket and head set and a genuine thermostat. No doubt I'll find that all of a sudden my hear is cracked even though it was skimmed and pressure tested before refitting. Hmmmm well time will tell the future of this car!!!!

From one very gutted amd slightly annoyed vrs owner...grrrrr rant over lol

Well guys, I've had the car back and ran it less than 600 miles. The car had developed a nasty noise that can only be heard in the cabin and not the engine bay -duel mass failing I think. The car refuses to heat up at all no matter how long I leave it to idle. I've ordered a genuine thermostat to see if that makes any difference.

I thought today I'd give it a good look over. To my horror I've discovered a rusty looking header tank, checked it and sure thing, looks bad. So removed the oil filler cap and guess what?! - flopping mayo everywhere. Head gasket again? Less than 600 miles after having this work done!

To say I'm peeved is an understatement. I am speachless. Straight on the blower to the garage and they explained to me that the car was fine when it left them......well obviously not as I've consistantly expressed my concern over the car not getting upto temp. I've also said all through the works that said garage can have the car for as long as it takes and let me know what it needs before I get it back as I do not need any future issues or inconvenience. Well looks like this wasn't looked into either. I have a list of silly things I will be running through with them bit as of now I'm on standby with a 5 gallon petrol can and a lighter. I'm soooo annoyed with this car.

The garage has agreed to pick the car up next week to investigate future but I can only assume they replaced the head gasket last time and did not investigate further into why it went in the first place. I've tried to cover all aspects originally before any work was carried out but looks like I'm going to have to spend twice :( another head gasket and head set and a genuine thermostat. No doubt I'll find that all of a sudden my hear is cracked even though it was skimmed and pressure tested before refitting. Hmmmm well time will tell the future of this car!!!!

From one very gutted amd slightly annoyed vrs owner...grrrrr rant over lol

God I feel for you mate, not that it makes it any easier!

Did the garage provide you with any feedback on the initial head gasket failure?

Edit: Personally I don't have any experience with head gasket failure (throughout my time of motoring so far, touch wood/fingers crossed and all that!) So I can't offer much input.

That said there is some good reading on the following link that might help you be more knowledgeable on the subject when you next speak to the garage. Sorry if it is sucking eggs stuff to you though.

http://www.agcoauto.com/content/news/p2_articleid/200

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Nope not really however I have all the original items back that were removed from the car and you could clearly see the degraded area of failed head gasket. Obviously there's something somewhere causing my issue.

I'm actually annoyed as I ordered a full head set from darkside but they only sent a rocker gasket and reimbursed me the difference. Now the first time I got my car back it developed a misfire to the point it was unable to to accelerate under load. This ended up being an injector seal in the end.

I'm wondering if these have something to do with it? As I'm sure I've heard when these fail it can cause similar symptoms to head gasket failure? However I'm not holding my breath to an easy fix!!!

I think my daY's of vrs ownership are numbered tbh as I'm loosing the faith :(

Oh and sorry dude that link doesn't work for me :( access denied

I suppose you have to weigh up the cost of getting it right, which you may not know at the minute.

What a bloody nightmare. Would buying a second hand engine be an option for you? You could hold out for for one off the forum that a member could vouch for?

Does this link work?

<a href='http://www.agcoauto.com/content/news/p2_articleid/200' title='Symptoms of a Blown Head Gasket'>Symptoms of a Blown Head Gasket</a>

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Hi mate.

Well it's all cost buddy and as you know, this is one of the most expensive repairs you can do to your car and to have it fail in less than 1k I'm gutted and the faith is going. Quite literally everything other than the rad and the coolant pipes is new. I'm wondering if it's a blockage however my header tank did not give off much of a pressure release this time round when I removed the cap.

That link gives the same message mate :http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/367067-new-owner-bad-experience/page-2 141.101.99.61 /content/news/p2_articleid/200 www.agcoauto.com Mozilla/5.0 (Linux; Android 5.0; SM-G900F Build/LRX21T) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/45.0.2454.84 Mobile Safari/537.36 200

Won't let me access the page even if I pick the address from above... how you getting on with your motor bud?

Yes I can imagine mate, are the garage covering it on a warranty basis or are they being difficult?

That link is just a breakdown on all possible forms of head gasket failure and their associated symptoms. Not sure why it isn't working! Lol

My motor is running well touch wood. I replaced the camshaft and followers when I changed the cambelt several weeks ago and it's running sweet. It's also had a new clutch and DMF in the last 4 months but I knew that was on the horizon as it's done 110k, 10 years old and was still on its original.

Had a boost pipe pop off yesterday but "self tappered" it today so can't see that reoccurring.

I'm doing about 140 mile a day in it at present and fuel economy is awesome and I wouldn't be without it. That's why I think it's such a bloody shame your experience is understandably tarnishing your view of these cars!

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It's this type of stuff on that link mate, I didn't know if any of it might be useful to see if it tied up with A. What you were experiencing, or B. What the garage have told you.

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You know what mate, alot of my friends have had and still have these cars with no issues other than what they've caused by diy modding. I know these cars 'can' be good but this one is a total ball ache.

Not sure how the garage are going to be to be honest. They have always had the time to look at it for me but it's just a huge inconvenience. I just hope that whatever it is they find it. I know the garage won't be happy about this car being a "terminator" but that isn't my fault and something I'm sure they'll accept. Fingers crossed it's not too much of a nightmare all round.

I'm glad you managed to get yours sorted though mate. You do a hell of alot of miles per day so having a reliable whip is a must! How much should I be looking at for a clutch replacement do you reckon?

Oh and an engine swap, yeah would do it if I'm put in that situation however just like me buying this car, you never know what your going to end up with.

Cheers for the copy and paste mate! Kudos

In terms of clutch and DMF I paid £595 for a sachs kit fitted at Unit 18 in Milton Keynes. I was very impressed with my experience there and would definately go again.

I'll keep my fingers crossed for you on the head gasket front. It sounds promising from what you have said about the garage. The huge positive from all this is that once you get it all sorted you should have many trouble free miles in front of you!!

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Hey guys cars at the garage now. They can get the car up to temperature in a short journey where as I simply can not! They seem to think my problems exist with the oil cooler hence my bone moving temp gauge without boosting car :/ albeit I have mayo in the oil filler neck again and crud in the header tank, they've just carried out a sniff test and all come back ok?!?

So Im left with the situation of - "it's not my fault" from the mechanic. Well I've paid for the head to be skimmed and pressure tested - should I have had any print outs/results as proof of this? My car produces clouds of white smoke on boost. To me this is coolant being burnt off. It never used to and has only gotten worse since having the work carried out. If it's not the head gasket again, what could it be? Cracked head? I'm soooo fed up with this car now.

The garage has recommended I remove my thermostatically controlled darkside oil cooler as they are sure this is causing all my issues with my low temps.

So where does this leave me? What should be checked next? Pay for someone else to remove the head to have it checked? As I'm nearly certain the current garage will refuse to do this. I just can't think of why I'm burning coolant through the exhaust. ... would a cracked head also create visible mayo? If so I'd imagine that's my next port of call.

Thanks guys

Hey guys.

I've just got my vrs back after a week away from it. The garage took it back to investigate further. They found a leaking rocker cover - easy fix I suppose. They checked all work carried out by them, more than likely all the torque and stretch settings in bolts etc... They did find yet another leaking injector seal. I just wish they'd all been replaced day one. I supplied and they fitted a genuine thermostat to the car. Flushed the oil and coolant, gave it another service.

They've now put over 200 miles on the car and sniff tested it before and after resulting in no fumes in the coolant. The car now runs up to temperate and sits around 90 degree the horrible noise I feared was the duel mass has been narrowed down to a pulley bearing being shot.

So finally my VRS ownership looks to be a happy future and not a doomed one. I'll be keeping an eye on the car for the immediate future but I can say I'm glad to have her back and even happier it's not cost me a second fortune to sort out!

Onwards and upwards as they say! I show probs start off a project thread lol

Cheers

Temp remove the alternator belt. Has the horrible noise stopped?

Hope you get to the bottom of your problems, don't like reading this about these cars as they can give you loads of fun when needed and economy in one car. Happy driving.